NEED HELP! CPU temperatures

connorh01

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Sorry in advanced if this ends up being a long post.
About 2 months ago i started experiencing frame rate drops in overwatch. I watched all the videos under the sun to get "better performance" but none of them seemed to work.
I then went on to other methods such as disabling windows defender and cleaning my hard drive and so on and so forth. until i came to what i thought was the problem.
My old CPU was the AMD A10 7850k quad core which was getting to about 80 degrees C, idle and upwards of 90 degrees when in a game. I looked at numerous forums and all suggested to apply new thermal paste. I am fairly new to PC's and when i tried it myself unscrewed a wrong part and the CPU fell out and i accidentally bent a few of the pins. I took it to the PC repair shop in my village and they fixed the CPU pins and re fitted it for £35. However, it did not solve the problem and I continued to get hot temps and this time the PC was even crashing. (using HW monitor btw ;D) My friend who is good with PC's suggested they may have applied the thermal paste wrong so we tried to put it back together with more thermal paste and different patterns ( e.g. + X o ) and the temps still didn't go down. I decided to take it back to the repair shop. They did numerous tests and came to the conclusion that the CPU was to blame after trying new coolers and the same CPU on a new motherboard. The problem still arose, the CPU was still overheating. They recommend that i get a new CPU and motherboard and they would fit it. (£325 for all of it, the CPU would be the FX 8320) however, money is tight so I looked for alternative methods. They assured me that the CPU was to blame so i looked to buy a new CPU that fit my mobo. The reason they recommended that i get a new CPU and mobo was because the CPU i have is one of the best for my mobo and so if spending money they recommend i upgrade.
We found that my warranty is still available from where i bought the PC from and they'd fix it for free however we would have to pay to ship it there and back and for the box it came in as i no longer have it. We decided to get a new CPU as it would be just as cheap and may be able to get a slightly better CPU.
I bought the Athlon X4 880k.
After nearly a month without my PC i was eager to get on and play, but when i checked the temps on the new card they were idling at 60c. the PC shop said to compare to other programmes such as specky which also gave about 50-60c, about 75 whilst playing games.
I then tried a new programme called AMD overdrive. this gave me a thermal margin of about 70 which i read was good as the higher the better. I am very confused??
Btw the PC repair shop was very kind and have been supporting all the way through. Is there nothing to worry about or shall i take it back to them?
I have spent a lot of money so far and do not want to spend too much more. The PC repair shop charges £25 just to look at it.
My system specs are as follows:
Case: Cooler master elite 310 mid tower gaming case
CPU was: AMD A10 7850k quad core
CPU now: Athlon x4 880k
Memory: 8GB (2x4gb) ddr3/1866mhz dual channel memory (hyperX fury w/heat spreader)
Motherboard: Asus A58m-e AMD A58 FCH Chipset, crossfire supported
power supply:650watts
GPU : rx 460 windforce oc 4gb

Any help would be much appreciated.
 
In all honesty, I think the approach to 'temperatures' was a mistake. But what's done is done.

AMD Overdrive is the only reliable monitor for those CPUs, and yes, the higher the thermal margin the better. If it goes below 10 deg C then you can be concerned. Likelihood is, the previous APU wasn't actually overheating because of the software you were using; sounds very normal given my own experience in comparing the thermal readings across different temperature monitors.

I would suggest running AMD Overdrive's built in stress test to see how low the thermal margin goes. When looking at thermals the important one to look at is when the processor is on a full load because this is when it will be hottest. This will give you an indication of how well your processor will cope in heavy workloads. As it is I don't think there's much to worry about for now.

For reference: http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/faq/id-2122665/understanding-temperature-amd-cpus-apus.html
 
Some monitors registered 110 deg C for my x4 760k while gaming, but AMD Overdrive would show 30 deg C thermal margin. So from personal experience I'm not overly convinced as a result. However, if that 90 deg C you mentioned wasn't at full load, then it would be an issue. Which it probably was, as it seems unlikely a 10 deg C difference between and idle load and full load is possible. So it is possible it was overheating, but it is conditional on the circumstances of that 90 deg C you mentioned.

If I was to guess, perhaps the bent pins were more damaging than they seemed. (You don't mention crashes prior to the pins being bent.) Event viewer could have indications what happened during those crashes, and certainly the DMP files if it was a Windows crash could give more indication.

What's important is the processor you're using now works properly so you can enjoy using your PC. It sounds like it's fine from the current information.
 
With an actual blue screen crash, the best thing to do is configure Windows to create the crash dumps (if you haven't already) and post it on the Windows boards for those with a better understanding of these things. A lot of crashes tend to be driver related or a RAM problem, but those with the knowledge to read DMP files can point you to the precise driver causing the issue.