Should i upgrade my GPU (GTX 770) or CPU (FX8120) first?

daiykan · Sep 4, 2017

Hello everyone,

It's been a while since i've build my PC. And now i wish to upgrade my rig. With a budget of around 1000$ CAD, Should i upgrade my GPU (1070/1080) or keep it and upgrade my CPU (Rizen or i5/i7)? I'm pretty novice when it comes to buying parts :/ . I will upgrade both, but probably gonna wait 'till next summer.

My current Rig

- AMD FX-8120
- GeForce GTX 770
- 24 Go RAM
- EVGA 750W P2

I'm a gamer (Near 700 games on steam) and i've sold my Oculus DK2 to maybe buy the Vive or the rift CV1.

Thank you for your help!

HamBown81 · Sep 4, 2017

Sort of depends what you want to do. With a $1000 you could build a Ryzen system that would be pretty sweet.

Basically if you just want to talk about capabilities, your CPU, RAM, and PSU could support more of a GPU than you have, but not a 1080 likely (even 1070 would probably bottleneck). I run an RX 580 8GB (compare 1060 6GB) on my FX-8370 and have no restrictions.

Upgrading your CPU also means a new mobo and new RAM but if you are sill rocking a GTX 770, you won't be too happy.

True Buie · Sep 4, 2017

Heyo daiykan

As things are now you're gonna get a bottleneck somewhere in the system no matter what you upgrade. If you upgrade the graphics card to let's say the 1080, you're not gonna get the full potential. The other way around. If you upgraded to a Ryzen 5 1500, you'd be maxing out that 770 and not really experiencing your games that much better than before.
Also. If you're going to upgrade your CPU, you'dd need new RAM as well. Well, also a motherboard, but I think that's a given in this situation.
You should probably aim for a middle ground or wait a little. Something like a Ryzen 3 1200, a 1060 and 16gb ddr4 ram would be a fine combo.

Cheers.

constantine_99 · Sep 4, 2017

GTX 770 perform neck-to-neck with the 1050ti
so unless u're eager to get more bling-bling in your game, just get a new CPU instead

or perhaps this kind of build? (u can just leave out the GPU if u want to buy better GPU next summer)
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/p6YGZ8

HamBown81 · Sep 4, 2017

constantine_99 :

Better than, even...

http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-770-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1050-Ti/2174vs3649
http://gpuboss.com/gpus/GeForce-GTX-770-vs-GeForce-GTX-1050-Ti

maxalge · Sep 4, 2017

HamBown81 :

those websites are trash, dont use them

even a broken clock is right twice a day

the 770 is faster

maxalge · Sep 4, 2017

daiykan :

you need to update your platform, the 8120 is super obsolete

ryzen or intel, depends on what is more important to you

gaming performance? intel

with the new platform coming soon even stuff where the ryzen would have been useful may have been superseded for new buyers

if the i7 8700k comes at a good price level there is really no reason to get ryzen at all

HamBown81 · Sep 4, 2017

HamBown81 :

Yes, the 770 performs better. That's what I meant.

HamBown81 · Sep 4, 2017

maxalge :

That is a broad and ridiculous generalization. Clearly the OP who is asking for advice of which mid-range component to upgrade first (b/c feels they can't do both) is not in the market for the newest, shiniest, "best" thing. Nor are they interested in having their rig shit on by elitists.

No reason to get anything but the newest platform and an 8th generation Intel CPU, ok...

There are people on here asking for help with their AM2 systems, what do you tell them. "Why bother..." , I suppose. Or some attack on their knowledge because their use-case and personal situation doesn't require or allow them to have the newest, best technology!

Technologify · Sep 4, 2017

1050 ti > 770

Please consider doing more researching.

constantine_99 · Sep 4, 2017

HamBown81 :

look at the FPS part in the userbenchmark, the difference is only 2%, even after winning about 20% in the user bench + peak OCed bench

a youtuber also cover this up:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCWBiPigfYY&t=8s

madmatt30 · Sep 4, 2017

With $1000 cad there doesn't gave to be a compromise , that budget will manage both.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($259.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Motherboard: ASRock - Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming K4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($110.50 @ Vuugo)
Memory: Patriot - Viper Elite 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($140.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB D5 6G Video Card ($349.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Total: $861.47
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-09-04 06:51 EDT-0400

If it has to be one or the other first though ??

Definitely CPU/mb/ram base system is first port of call IMO.

HamBown81 · Sep 4, 2017

Technologify :

It really depends where you look. The GTX 770 performs better for gaming in some circumstances, that is not the point!

I'm not the one telling people that "all your stuff is crap" and "every website is crap" and "why bother even doing anything if you aren't getting the newest platform and an 8th generation Intel CPU"

That is not the kind of help people are looking for. Thank you madmatt30 for your level-headed build suggestion!

maxalge · Sep 4, 2017

HamBown81 :

let me quote myself properly, to show your dishonesty

"if the i7 8700k comes at a good price level there is really no reason to get ryzen at all"

then let me quote you

"No reason to get anything but the newest platform and an 8th generation Intel CPU...:lol: "

I like the smiley face

he has a $1000 budget, an i7 is WELL within his reach

nothing worse than dishonesty... And poor reading comprehension...

HamBown81 · Sep 4, 2017

maxalge :

Dishonesty, no. More like inability to comprehend things at 3:00am. I have revised my post.

Say what you like.

My apologies for misinterpreting you in my sleep-deprived state.

HamBown81 · Sep 4, 2017

maxalge :

Why can't this be the advice you gave in the first place, if you think it is the best thing for the OP?

EDIT: Or, even better, you could suggest a build that fits the budget instead of trashing other peoples posts / ideas

HamBown81 · Sep 4, 2017

constantine_99 :

Was just for comparison of where the existing card sits in the performance market, it is a toss-up.

daiykan · Sep 4, 2017

Thank you all for your answer. I knew that i'll bottleneck one or the other. I've build my pc like...5-6 years ago? I don't ''need'' to have the best but just something good that will last around the same time. Sorry i was not very specific with my question. :/

I think the middle ground like ''madmatt30'' suggest might be a good plan. With this build, would i see a huge upgrade? And in 2-3 years i could just put a better GPU?

madmatt30 · Sep 4, 2017

^ a ryzen 1600 & a 1060 ??

Yeah mate , that's a fairly 'monster' upgrade over what you're currently running.

With a $1k budget you're fairly close to getting a 1070 in there in all honesty.

At 1080p 69htz though you're going to see a diminishing return on the extra $170-180 it'll cost.

I think you're better off going with the 1060 , its not a million miles off twice as powerful as that old 770.

If you can afford it throw in an ssd with the remainder of your budget.

HamBown81 · Sep 4, 2017

daiykan :

Is a huge upgrade, definitely.

madmatt30 gave a solid reccomendation

daiykan · Sep 4, 2017

Yeah, i already have a 250 gb SSD + 2X 1 Tb HHD

. But i might get another SSD for my games. Thank you for your help!

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