HDD -> SSD Migration

mathewsnow94

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Hey i just ordered a new 500gb Samsung EVO SSD, I want to Migrate my OS and all my game files to this new SSD, my question is..my current 1tb HDD has 618GB free out of 930GB, Am i able to simply migrate this with no issues seen as their is enough space? i really dont want to have to reinstall the OS onto the SSD and just migrate it,

Also if this works will all the data still be kept on my HDD? im looking to use this as back-up storage for some games and music and videos.

I'm also curious as to how i set the boot up option to always boot up from the SSD all the time, im new to SSD's so any information is appreciated.

Thank you.

 
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We used to do this all the time when SSDs 1st came to market. As thy have gotten more reliable, it's done less but about half of users request this scenario when adding a SSD. If immediate access to your data is important, this is a very sound idea .... if it's a pure gaming box, than it really doesn't matter unless gaming is an addiction and...

USAFRet

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So it appears you have about 300GB used space, and a 500GB SSD? No problem.

Clone, just like this:
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Verify the actual used space on the current drive is significantly below the size of the new SSD
Download and install Macrium Reflect (or Samsung Data Migration, if a Samsung SSD)
Power off
Disconnect ALL drives except the current C and the new SSD
Power up
Run the Macrium Reflect (or Samsung Data Migration)
Select ALL the partitions on the existing C drive
Click the 'Clone' button
Wait until it is done
When it finishes, power off
Disconnect ALL drives except for the new SSD
Swap the SATA cables around so that the new drive is connected to the same SATA port as the old drive
Power up, and verify the BIOS boot order
If good, continue the power up

It should boot from the new drive, just like the old drive.
Maybe reboot a time or two, just to make sure.

If it works, and it should, all is good.

Later, reconnect the old drive and wipe as necessary.
Delete the original boot partitions, here:
https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/windows/en-US/4f1b84ac-b193-40e3-943a-f45d52e23685/cant-delete-extra-healthy-recovery-partitions-and-healthy-efi-system-partition?forum=w8itproinstall
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Pay attention to the part about what happens right at the end of the cloning process.
You must power off, remove the old drive, etc....
 
1. For the boot option... just make sure that:

SSD is connected to lowest numbered SATA port
HD is connected to 2nd lowest numbered SATA port

2. Personally, I always install fresh ... you can sometimes get as much performance increase from a fresh install as from the storage upgrade.
 

mathewsnow94

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Thanks for the quick reply, I quite like the look of the Macrium program so i'll probably use that, iv seen from various other places about 'formatting' a drive, does this mean ill have to completely wipe my current HDD? or have i missed something?
 

mathewsnow94

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So i migrate full HDD data to new SDD with plenty of space, I set SSD to boot up in BIOS, so now that my HDD and SSD are identical and have exact same data, IF my SSD boots up with no issues, am i able to keep everything on the HDD as back up to what is on the SSD and also able to add more files back on the HDD, am i also able to keep the OS on the HDD as back up and not format anything?
 

USAFRet

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You actually don't want to keep the current HDD as a "backup", with a full bootable OS on it.

1. That is mostly a waste of space
2. I've seen instances where that causes major confusion if there are mishaps elsewhere. I can go into detail if you like
3. There are better ways to do backups.
 

USAFRet

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Well, Macrium, for one.

A 2TB external drive is a good solution.
On a schedule in Macrium, a Full backup image, and then a daily or weekly Differential image. Once a month, a new Full backup, deleting the old ones as it goes.

Cheap insurance in case of corruption, ransomware, dead C drive, etc, etc.

All my systems have multiple levels of backup:
1. A Full backup image on Day 1 of a new OS install
2. A Full backup once my standard load of applications installed.
3. Then the regular scheduled Full image and daily Incremental images.
 

mathewsnow94

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right ill keep that in mind thanks, so before when you mention about after migrating, IF my new OS on the SSD boots up fine multiple times, am i 100% able to format the C drive completely? as im assuming if it boots up fine on the SSD then all my game files and everything else will be fine also?.

Sorry if im repeating myself, just dont want to lose everything and have to re-download it all, my download speed is absolutely terrible so i want to avoid that at all costs.
 


We used to do this all the time when SSDs 1st came to market. As thy have gotten more reliable, it's done less but about half of users request this scenario when adding a SSD. If immediate access to your data is important, this is a very sound idea .... if it's a pure gaming box, than it really doesn't matter unless gaming is an addiction and crisis arises if you can't play for a day or 2.

1. Prepare for Windows installation with USB tool or use available media
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/windows-usb-dvd-download-tool

2. Connect boot drive data cable to lowest numbered SATA port .... but don't connect:
-Ethernet cable
-SATA Data Cable for any other drives

3. Install Windows to boot drive

4. Turn off Windows ability to install Hardware drivers
https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/48277-enable-disable-driver-updates-windows-update-windows-10-a.html
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/82137-drivers-turn-off-automatic-driver-installation.html

5. Install all hardware drivers from original media in boxes See Item 7 below

6. Connect ethernet cable and run Windows Update till it stops doing anything

7. Install latest drivers for ALL hardware from manufacturers web sites. The reason we didn't do this in step 5 is 3 fold:
-Sometimes MoBo CD comes with licensed utilities with product key embedded and these are not on web site versions
-Its advisable to establish a working out of box conditions
-Sometimes newer drivers require latest Windows Updates

If you have a 2nd drive .... Assign a volume label to the SSD ... say "500GBSSD"

8. Shut down and connect HD data cable to 2nd lowest numbered SATA port.

9. Boot to BIOS and make sure that SSD is the 1st boot device, if not fix it

10. Boot to Windows

11. Assign volume label to HD .. say "1TBHD"

12. In all instances, if our uses had a Hard Drive, the OS resided on its own partition (C), page and temp files on D, programs on E and data on F. The next step would therefore be to simply install programs over themselves. So where Acrobat was located on E:\Adobe\Acrobat (Hard Drive), we'd simply install it over itself to same location.

13. So if the SSD died or OS on it became infected, when cleint called needing a copy of that report, it would be there in 2 minutes. Simply reboot to BIOS and tell it to boot from the HD. Both installs used the same location for temp / page files.

Again, this is strictly a "what's more important ... immediate access or storage space. In any case, data should be backed up to an external device so if either the SSD or HD dies, you are still in a position to service your own client needs. In our SoHo network, we have the workstation / data server set up to dual boot like this w/ storage dock for external backups. That box can never be down so has two OS installs. The other 9 lappies / desktops just have the single OS install.
 
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USAFRet

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Once cloned to the SSD, wipe that drive and set up a scheduled backup routine.
You're moving everything. Keeping the HDD in its current state is counter productive.