Graphics Stutter with high FPS

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My graphics in game are stuttering despite the fact that I have a new, high quality computer (recently built - about 2 weeks ago). I'm not talking about low FPS or FPS lag, but rather what seems to be very similar to screen tearing if I could best explain it. However, being that I am running dual 144hz monitors, I would assume that screen tearing is not what the issue is. It's like micro lag, barely enough to even be noticed, but still enough to completely throw your game off. Not to mention you just have a mental block the whole time you're playing and you can't help it at all, especially when it's a newer rig and you don't know where to begin to fix it.

My specs:
OS: Windows 10 Home 64-Bit
PSU: 750w Seasonic Focus
Motherboard: ASRock AB350M Pro 4 ATX
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 1700
GPU: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080
RAM: 32GB DDR4 3000 (clocked at 2933MHz)
Storage: 1TB Crucial MX300 SSD + 4TB Seagate IronWolf Pro (7200RPM)
Monitor: 2x ASUS VG248QE 24" 144hz

I play a good amount of Counter Strike: GO (not a demanding game at all), which is very twitch based and requires fast reaction time to play the game at a higher level. Therefore, in this game particularly, it is VERY easy to notice stuttering. My last computer had no such issue and that's why I believe I noticed the stuttering so quickly and so easily this time around. My FPS in game is typically 200-400 (let me know if this seems low for my specs) and I do not have any packet loss or choke on the servers. So connection issues can definitely be ruled out as far as I'm concerned. I play in Fullscreen mode but have also tested Windowed mode and Fullscreen Windowed, the same issue exists.

Something else worth noting, I haven't tried any other games yet. Counter Strike is by far my favorite and if I can't get this game running properly, I'm not even worried about playing any others as of now.

I have ran benchmarks on my PC with userbenchmark and received the following results:
Gaming: 105%
Desktop: 78%
Workstation: 92%
All of the components are "performing as expected", except the graphics card, but it is not far off from the average bench that other users are getting. My bench was 125% and the average is 127%, so I'm not really worried about that considering most people run those benchmarks with overclocked components.

I have also ran the Firestrike benchmark, I forget my exact scores but they were as follows (approximately):
Firestrike: 15700
Timespy: 7000+

Solutions I have tried:
- Checked 100 times that I am set to 1920x1080 @ 144hz
- Disable/Enable V-Sync (in game + Nvidia control panel)
- Run chkdsk command (scanned EVERYTHING, took four hours, no issues)
- Run sfc /scannow command (no issues)
- Full virus scan
- Optimize/Defragment drives
- Uninstall + reinstall Steam and all games
- Adjusted all video settings in Counter Strike: GO
- Uninstall + reinstall Nvidia display drivers
- Check for available updates (both through Windows + McAfee)

I've definitely attempted more solutions, just not able to refresh my memory on all of them at the moment.

Any and all help with my issue is truly appreciated, it sucks putting all this money into something and not being able to fully enjoy it. You can't help but wonder what is wrong and spend all of your time trying to fix it. I'm just about out of solutions other than a fresh install of Windows, and I'm up to listen to anyone who has had a similar problem in the past and has some different troubleshooting/fixes that I have not already attempted.

Thanks in advance.
 
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jrouth, I did see news stories on the web that Microsoft has acknowledged issues with the creators update and game stuttering. Fixes are supposedly in the works and being tested in the fast ring for windows updates. How fast they will get it fixed = ? .

In the meantime, there are LOTS and LOTS of services, programs, and telemetry that should be turned off that may help with this. The fewer resources you have running in the background to reduce that switching latency the better.

Please remember with V-sync that if you are syncing, if your video card cannot produce a frame when the monitor asks for it, the same frame is displayed until the next call for a frame from the monitor. This may lead to a feeling of stuttering as you are...
You'll have to test another games to determine if it really is a hardware issue or a game-specific problem.

One thing many people mention for CSGO with nvidia cards suffering from micro-stuttering is to disable the shader cache option in your Nvidia 3d settings, see if that helps.
 

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I just tested out one of my favorite platformers, Spelunky, I chose this game in particular because I've played it very much and it has very tight and responsive controls which would make any stuttering very noticeable. There's no doubt about it, I was absolutely experiencing stuttering while playing Spelunky. It seems like every few seconds the game just kind of loses it a little, and the controls become noticeably choppy for I would say about a second or maybe a little less. It would even be annoying if it only happened every 20 minutes, but this is literally happening every 20-30 seconds.

Tried out Counter Strike with the "shader cache" option in the Nvidia control panel off as well and still no luck :(
 
One thing I've read with Ryzen CPUs is that you need to set your computer's power profile in "High Performance" instead of "balanced", if you haven't already give it a try.

Otherwise you'll have to start stress testing each component in your computer to find out which is the culprit of your issue.
 

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I have had it set at high performance for a few days now.

Could the problem somehow be driver related? I really just don't think that this is the case because the only drivers I've downloaded so far have been the motherboard, graphics card, and monitor. And I've already reinstalled the graphics card drivers. Is there any easy way to uninstall and reinstall the other drivers?

Otherwise, it definitely just looks like a hardware problem.
 
jrouth, I did see news stories on the web that Microsoft has acknowledged issues with the creators update and game stuttering. Fixes are supposedly in the works and being tested in the fast ring for windows updates. How fast they will get it fixed = ? .

In the meantime, there are LOTS and LOTS of services, programs, and telemetry that should be turned off that may help with this. The fewer resources you have running in the background to reduce that switching latency the better.

Please remember with V-sync that if you are syncing, if your video card cannot produce a frame when the monitor asks for it, the same frame is displayed until the next call for a frame from the monitor. This may lead to a feeling of stuttering as you are going from 144hz to an effective 72hz for a split second.

Without v-sync, you will experience tearing as whatever is ready to draw is sent regardless of monitor time, so it could be part of one frame and the rest of another.
 
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Hmm, this is interesting and good to know. However, I have tried with V-sync both ON and OFF, in game + nVidia control panel, it seems a bit smoother with V-sync on but the stuttering is definitely still there. I've also heard that V-sync causes input delay to different peripherals, such as my mouse, so I've been staying away from it and keeping it disabled.