ram compatibility question

packersfan036 · Sep 10, 2017

will this ram https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148563&ignorebbr=1 work with a asus maximus vll hero motherboard?

atomicWAR · Sep 10, 2017

Yeah it will run just fine.

packersfan036 · Sep 10, 2017

how do you know? I couldn't find it on the asus or crucial list.

atomicWAR · Sep 10, 2017

You may have to enter the CL and speed manually...actually I encourage users to always do this. XMP is great if it works with your set up but only use it as a starting point for your CL and command rate. You should still always try to find the lowest timings/ command rate (T1 ideally) because that is where the biggest performance gains are to be had.

The OVL list is just the ram they tested exclusively. And yes it is best if you can get ram off the QVL but the old intel DDR3 boards, minus a handful of models that were AMD exclusive which yours is not one of those known offenders, generally work well with anything on the market. XMP may or may not work but again you want to set your timings/speed manually anyways. Your platform is old enough where you don't have to worry like folks with Ryzen need to because there platform is so new and has bugs that need ironing out. The 1150 socket is very very mature so you don't have to worry as much.

packersfan036 · Sep 10, 2017

ok thanks ill buy them. do you think it will be a lot of performance increase over my current ram modules which are these https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231429&cm_re=gskill_ripjaws_x_16gb_ddr3-_-20-231-429-_-Product

atomicWAR · Sep 10, 2017

Start with the rated speed, voltage, CL and CMD rate. Once you have it working slowly lower your CL (that list on numbers on the side of your ram that isn't the speed) starting with the CAS. One number at a time test it in memtest 86 (ideally)...for ballpark testing (ie geting it close before going memtest on it) Just boot into windows and play a game or something. see if it crashes. If it does turn the number back up. Also the CMD rate or T...is usually rate T2. See if you can get T1 to work. Its a very nice boost in performance.

packersfan036 · Sep 10, 2017

can you tell me where I can look up on how to overclock the ram manually?

atomicWAR · Sep 10, 2017

I'd go with these instead...Don't get 4 sticks...get two. It will cost you less to run it (power wise) and create less heat. Also make it more likely your CPU can run it at lower CL/CMD and maybe OC the ram even further then it is. These are also faster at DDR3 2400mhz.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233778 $129

or if you can go a little higher on budget...

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231589 $169 This is the ram i have

packersfan036 · Sep 10, 2017

one more question, can I use 1.6v ddr3 ram with my cpu which is a i5 4690k it says to use 1.5v but I have more options with 1.6v

packersfan036 · Sep 10, 2017

intel says no more than 1.5v with my cpu. id really like to buy the trident x ram but its 1.6v ram

atomicWAR · Sep 10, 2017

You can yes...just don't exceed 1.65V for memory or you risk damaging your CPU or at the least wearing it out quicker. Also some of the G.skill ares and a couple other ones don't play nice with intel. I really encourage the ones I listed. Especially the the trident X.

atomicWAR · Sep 10, 2017

Intel lists for overclocking up to 1.65 is OK...their stock voltage is 1.5v though you are correct.

packersfan036 · Sep 10, 2017

so what exactly do you think of the ram I'm currently using (ripjaws x 1600mhz) can I overclock these manually say to 1866mhz?

packersfan036 · Sep 10, 2017

is the ram I'm using now decent? do you think I can get a good overclock out of these?

atomicWAR · Sep 10, 2017

My CPU stock voltages is the same as yours. I have been running at 1.6V for 3 years+ now with zero issues at DDR3 2400mhz speeds. I got lucky mine was stable at the lower 1.6V though it is rated at 1.65V. Test it at both. You may get lower a CL at 1.65 then 1.6 but in my case it was the same for both so i just use the lower voltage since anything lower on the CL wasn't stable at 2400mhz.

packersfan036 · Sep 10, 2017

so what exactly do you think of the ram I'm currently using (ripjaws x 1600mhz) can I overclock these manually say to 1866mhz?

atomicWAR · Sep 10, 2017

Yeah you most likely can. You'll have to turn up your voltages and increase you CL timings (most likely 1.55-1.65V with CL of 10-11). Try auto CL timings to get it to work and find the ball park speeds your ram can do...then if it does see what auto set them to and try to lower the timings some until your system becomes unstable then ease back to where it was last stable. Takes a little time but is a quick way to get more performance out of your ram.

atomicWAR · Sep 10, 2017

though you are running 4 sticks...this makes OCing ram harder. You may not get there at all. Also why I suggested get a 2 stick set-up. It is still worth the time to try though.

packersfan036 · Sep 10, 2017

ok cool ill try overclocking what I have now first. if I'm unable to succeed, I will buy the trident x ram.

packersfan036 · Sep 10, 2017

why does 4 sticks make it hard?

packersfan036 · Sep 10, 2017

ok ill buy either the crucial or the trident x ram and have fun overclocking and use my current ram as a backup

atomicWAR · Sep 10, 2017

packersfan036 :

More stress on the memory controller. the fastest OC for ram is actually on one stick...each time you add a stick it stresses the memory controller on the CPU harder. The more sticks you add the less you can OC.

packersfan036 · Sep 10, 2017

ok, I want to thank you for all your help. and just one more ? how much longer do you think my pc will be good before I need to upgrade?

packersfan036 · Sep 10, 2017

asus maximus vll hero motherboard, i5 4690k cpu, 16gb of ddr3 gskill ram, corsair h105 liquid cpu cooler, gigabyte gtx 1060 6gb video card, 500gb Samsung evo 850 ssd drive, 1tb sshd drive.

atomicWAR · Sep 10, 2017

well depends on what you play. 4C/4T CPUs are starting to bottleneck games like BF1, Watch dogs 2, The Division, The Witcher 3, Ghost Recon Wildlands, GTA V, Rise of the Tomb Raider. That said if your not game streaming a solid 4C/8T drop in solution like the i7 4790K would add another 3-5 years to your platform. where as if you use well threaded games your i5 4690K is already hurting in some AAA games and in another year or 2...will be hurting in a lot of AAA games.

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