Need Advice, Two New Builds, Gaming / Gaming-Streaming $1000-1500 (NZD)

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Approximate Purchase Date: October or November

Budget Range: $1000 - 1500 NZD / per build ($800-1200 USD ish)

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, Streaming, Movies, Browsing

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Cheapest / Overseas shipping

Country: I live in New Zealand

Parts Preferences: No preference, but looking for a good second monitor (23"+)

Overclocking: Maybe

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe (?)

Must haves: Dual-Monitor Support

Additional Comments: I am looking to build two computers, one for me, and one for my partner. Partner wants to stream games and wants a computer that will run games on fairly high graphics.

I may or may not stream, but would also like a comp that runs games on high graphics.

Games he plays: Fallout 4, Destiny 2, Overwatch, Rocket League

Games we both play: League of Legends, Ark Survival Evolved**, Warframe, Minecraft

**Would really like to be able to play this game without an overheating computer.


Possible reusable parts: We have my partner's old computer which currently isn't working due to a fried motherboard. I made a post here about it. I'm not sure if the graphics card supports dual monitor. Although, I would prefer to rebuild his old pc with some new parts > having dual monitor.

Please let me know if we can rebuild his old pc as part of one of the new ones, and I it would be nice to see some new builds suggested as well. They can be a little out of price range, I would just have to build them more towards December if that's the case.

Thank you! Please let me know if anymore information is needed.
 
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First, what psu(make and model) and case(matx or atx) does that old pc have? What about the rams? That gpu is pretty good for 1080p 60fps. U definitely can reuse the components and it supports multiple monitors with eye infinity.
And like madmatt said in that post, the ryzen 1600 on a b350 is definitely a good choice to stream the games. Dunno abt shipping, but is this accurate?
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($335.00 @ 1stWave Technologies)
Motherboard: ASRock - Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming K4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($169.00 @ DTC Systems)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws 4 Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($258.58...
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First, what psu(make and model) and case(matx or atx) does that old pc have? What about the rams? That gpu is pretty good for 1080p 60fps. U definitely can reuse the components and it supports multiple monitors with eye infinity.
And like madmatt said in that post, the ryzen 1600 on a b350 is definitely a good choice to stream the games. Dunno abt shipping, but is this accurate?
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($335.00 @ 1stWave Technologies)
Motherboard: ASRock - Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming K4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($169.00 @ DTC Systems)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws 4 Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($258.58 @ Ascent Technology)
Storage: Intel - 600p Series 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($274.55 @ PC Force)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($111.00 @ 1stWave Technologies)
Video Card: Sapphire - Radeon RX 580 4GB NITRO+ Video Card ($465.00 @ 1stWave Technologies)
Case: Inwin - 703 BLACK ATX Mid Tower Case ($98.00 @ DTC Systems)
Power Supply: FSP Group - 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($144.00 @ Paradigm PCs)
Total: $1855.13
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-09-11 23:30 NZST+1200
This is one complete build and if you post a follow up with the working parts of ur old build, we can look at the salvageable parts and modifications.
 
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motowuzhere

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Thank you for your reply. The build you posted is pretty far over my budget, perhaps there can be some changes? Because if that's in USD then it's going to be over $2500 NZD. However, I don't mind going a little over budget for the full PC if I can salvage enough from the other PC.

I also looked up the parts you asked for on the old PC:
PSU: AURUM S-Series AS-550
CASE: Coolmaster HAF 912
RAM: GSkill 8GB DDR3 Ares


 
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No, it's New Zealand prices.
I would suggest you to build the above pc with the parts that I listed for the streaming build and use the power supply and case in the second budget build.
In ur second build, the ssd is optional, go for 2x4gb of 2800 rams min and pair it up with ryzen 1300x and 1050ti. That's good for 1080p 60hz medium high gaming. But if you want to upgrade that 1300x and gpu, u have to get a better psu. The voltage regulation and ripple control is not good in that aurum. So not good for high load scenarios.
The ram is not useful though. Sell it in ebay I guess?
Edit : remove the rx580 in the build above as you can use ur old r9
 
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Thanks for the advice! I'm having a little trouble following your suggestions in the second paragraph. Are you saying follow the part picker build and change out those things listed? Are you saying to use the R9 in the new build and get the 1050TI for the old pc? Could you possibly do a second part picker list (or just a simple list) for the parts for the remake (old) PC, just so I can get a visual of the differences?

Thank you for your help!
 
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My bad, sry(in my mobile with bad signal reception) . What I meant was, follow the part list above for the streaming build but drop down the rx580 since you already have an r9.
For the less powerful second build, have the same mobo but drop the ssd and use ur old case and psu. Downscale the cpu to a 1300X and gpu to a 1050ti. Also, downscale the ram to 2x4gb.
 
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So I made both of the builds in pcpartpicker. For the second build I followed madmatt's second suggestion in the other post, but I put it with to 1050ti. I also changed the PSU to a 650W since it had a good price/reviews. I didn't include a storage since I remembered I had a 2TB HDD at home I bought a few months ago on a good sale. The Case I just put in there as a placeholder. I might consider buying an SSD for the second comp later, but I think ~$2400 for two gaming computers is not bad at all.

Streaming Build
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($335.00 @ 1stWave Technologies)
Motherboard: ASRock - Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming K4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($169.00 @ DTC Systems)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws 4 Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($258.16 @ Ascent Technology)
Storage: Intel - 600p Series 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($274.55 @ PC Force)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($111.00 @ 1stWave Technologies)
Video Card: Sapphire - Radeon R9 380 2GB Dual-X Video Card
Case: Inwin - 703 BLACK ATX Mid Tower Case ($98.00 @ DTC Systems)
Power Supply: FSP Group - 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($143.00 @ Paradigm PCs)
Total: $1388.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-09-13 13:20 NZST+1200

Rebuild(More like Case Re-use)
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($335.00 @ 1stWave Technologies)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($135.00 @ 1stWave Technologies)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($119.00 @ 1stWave Technologies)
Storage: 2TB Seagate
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB SC GAMING ACX 2.0 Video Card ($265.05 @ PC Force)
Case: Cooler Master - HAF 912 USB3.0 ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($177.00 @ 1stWave Technologies)
Total: $1031.05
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-09-13 13:22 NZST+1200

If there are better pieces I can put in or change out, or if this looks alright, please let me know!
 
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You said "The voltage regulation and ripple control is not good in that aurum. So not good for high load scenarios." I was just wondering when should I upgrade it?

Thank you for all of your help.
 
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When you plan to get a better(150w +) gpu for ur second build. Or you can actually replace the psu now also. A good psu lasts ages.
The r9 380 technically had a 225w tdp, but that happens only on stress tests. For gaming scenarios, it should hover around 150-180w which is just abt the limit for the aurum psu.
 
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