Need a cooler for CPU

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i (soon) will have a i7-6700k to fit my LGA1151 motherboard.
as of now, i have a i5-6400, where my temps at 70-100% load are only max 45 degrees (no OC.)
will i need to get a new cooler, for the new i7?, i am sorry, but i have no clue what fan i have.

hope you guys will help me.
(sry for my bad details)
 
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i will be overclocking with it, which one do you reccomend for overclocking and fits my motherboard?

thank you. (no more than 50-70USD)

 

nicolaas123

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Shit, i have no idea, all i know is that i have a LGA1151 Socket D: Tried finding it but i couldent.
i have a Lenovo CUbe y710 (no more than 70 dollars)

 
That case is a prebuilt cube with a proprietary CPU cooler. From the looks of it, the case panel all but meets the top of the video card. So at best, you have a CPU clearance of a standard height PCIe slot. So I wouldn't bet more than 100mm.

So something like a CoolerMaster 212 Evo cooler at 160mm is completely out of the question.

The system came with options up to a i7-7600 and the cooler is rated to 65w, so you likely won't get proper cooling for the i7-6700k at 91w with the stock cooler.

The motherboard is a H170 chipset, so you're not going to be able to overclock the CPU, if you can even cool it.

In short, I hope you haven't bought the i7 yet. You can upgrade to an i7-6700 and keep all the original equipment but you're going to make life hard for yourself with the K series cpu.

*Edit The Noctua NH-L12 "might" fit and it's rated to 100w. But thats also assuming you can mount it on the motherboard. The system may not be friendly to people trying to get behind the motherboard to mount brackets.
 

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Hi, thanks for your help, i found out that my motherboard is a "Lenovo 364a"
would my best option be to keep some of the main parts, and get a new case plus a new motherboard? and im sorry, but i dident reallyyy understand why i cant have the K series cpu.
thanks for invensting time into this.
 


The board looks to be a standard ITX format, so you may be able to pull it apart and pop it in to a new case. If you were to get a new motherboard, assuming your RAM is DDR4, I think you could rebuild it with the existing parts and put it in a new case. But now we're looking at buying a new case and motherboard and CPU and CPU cooler for what started as a simple upgrade to 6th generation hardware. Intel is about to release their 8th generation CPUs, so I'd look at if the cost is really worth it. If it's worth the time and cost to do that to you, then cool go for it.

As for why you can't have the K series CPU in your computer as it now stands, it's a matter of a few things.

1. K series CPU's are unlocked, so you can overclock them. However to do that, you need to have the correct motherboard, which would be a Z170 series board. You have a H170 chipset motherboard. The chipset on the motherboard does not support overclocking the CPU, which is most of the reason why people want a K series CPU. So if you wanted to replace the motherboard, you'd have to find one that fit in your case. Not knowing how proprietary the motherboard is, this could lead to a problems with it fitting and connecting to various ports on the case. Now you could put the i7-6700k in there and assuming it works (see #3) it would run at it's stock speeds. However this leads in to #2.

2. Heat. Your CPU cooler in your computer is only rated to 65watts. The CPU you currently have (i5-6400) is rated at 65watts. So it cools just fine. If you were to upgrade to the i7-6700 (not the K version), it's rated at 65watts and could use your existing cooler and be fine. However, the i7-6700k is rated at 91watts, which means your existing cooler won't do the job. So you have to buy a new one. However because your computer isn't listing it's CPU cooler clearance, we have to guess. As I said before, at a glance, it looks as though you have an upper limit of 100mm, but I can't tell for sure. There's a few low profile coolers that "could" fit, but since this thing is custom made for Lenovo there's no guarantee there isn't something custom for the cooler to fit on to. Judging from the hardware manual (https://download.lenovo.com/consumer/desktop_pub/ic_y710_hmm_20160711.pdf) it looks like there's a mounting system under the motherboard that the cooler screws in to. If that's removable, you could possibly put in a 3rd party cooler. However to get to it, you will have to remove the motherboard, as there is no access hole in the metal under it. Lenovo has a whole series of how to videos for this computer, so you can see how they want you to do things. http://download.lenovo.com/lts/RCDW1250/CourseFiles/player.html

3. BIOS. Your computer ships with the support of a i7-6700, so it's compatible with that i7. However there's no guarantee that the i7-6700k is compatible. While the chipset (H170) "should" support it, it's possible it's using a custom BIOS that doesn't have support for the K series CPUs.

So there's just a lot of "maybes" and "could be" with upgrading that computer to a K series CPU. However if you just put in the i7-6700, it's compatible with all your existing hardware.

Now keep in mind this is just me being bored and looking up stuff on the computer, so I may not be 100% right on this. If you want a definitive and official word on upgrading, then I'd strongly suggest contacting Lenovo customer support and asking them directly.
 
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Thanks, now i understand... so i can get the i7-6700 in.
so, i shoulden't bother getting a new case, plus new Mobo, CPU and CPU cooler?, im sorry, but english is a foreign language for me.
I do have the budget for that, but i never build a computer myself.
you said "Intel is about to release their 8th generation CPUs, so I'd look at if the cost is really worth it." i should get a new case, and mobo etc etc.. and get a Mobo that supports the 8th gen, since the 6th gen is kinda getting old? or something else?
it really surprises me that you put so much time into this... thanks.

hope to hear from you :D
 


No to worry, it helps pass the time when I'm bored at work.

So short answer is no, I wouldn't recommend buying a new case, motherboard, cpu and cooler for your current hardware.

If you're looking to do a new build or buy a new computer, I would wait until Intel releases their new CPU. The costs aren't going to be a huge difference and the performance will be better. Since you'd have to buy a new motherboard and cpu and cooler anyway, you might as well do it with the latest model instead of spending only a little less to build with the older models.

If you just want to upgrade the CPU and keep everything the way it is, then go for the i7-6700. It's cheaper and easier to do. Honestly this is the suggestion I'd recommend. If it provides enough power to do the things you want to do, then great. If not, then sell it and build/buy a new one once the new Intel stuff comes out.

One thing I will also mention. Your motherboard might support the i7-7700. It uses the same socket, so it might just need a BIOS update. It's a little faster of a CPU than the i7-6700, can use the same heatsink that you currently have, and is only a few dollars more. Contact Lenovo and see if the computer can use it.
 

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ok, i will contact lenovo support.
one last thing, do you mean sell the whole computer or the motherboard and the cpu?

Edit** i just updated my BIOS, and wtf, they dont have costumer support for the lenovo Cube y710 90FL ffs.
im leaning more and more to the option of getting new case esc esc.
 
Well by sell, i meant if you upgraded your CPU to the i7-6700 and it just didn't do what you wanted it to do, just sell the thing once Intel puts out it's new line of CPUs and get a modern setup.

If you were to setup up your current computer with a new case, motherboard, cpu and cooler (assuming you can use the other parts in your existing computer), you would have to spend somewhere in the area of $500USD. Maybe more, maybe less on exact parts but roughly about that much and it would be for a 6th generation CPU. When the new line of CPUs comes out, you'd spend roughly $50 more, so around $550USD for the same group of parts but you'll have it based on a 8th generation CPU instead. For the performance increase thats expected with the new line of CPUs, it's very hard to justify spending almost as much for an old CPU setup as for the new one.