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Yup that's a excellent build, good part choices. At some point I'd recommend getting a SSD as there worth it for speeding up general use/tasks as well as longer loading screens for some games.

CompletedRig

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Thanks so much for the feedback, I'll include a SSD
 

WildCard999

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Get something with at least 240gb+ so you'll have plenty of space. Either of these are really good.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Storage: Western Digital - Blue 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($89.88 @ OutletPC)
Total: $89.88
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-09-12 23:55 EDT-0400

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Storage: Crucial - MX300 275GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($99.38 @ OutletPC)
Total: $99.38
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-09-12 23:55 EDT-0400
 
Dump that overpriced case. If you get one for around 50 bucks, that should almost be enough for about a 120gb ssd.

For example you could get this case.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/xGp323/deepcool-d-shield-atx-mid-tower-case-d-shield#viewImages

This 240gb SSD runs 85ish.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8jH48d/sandisk-ssd-plus-240gb-25-solid-state-drive-sdssda-240g-g26

So not much more than your original budget. However there are plenty of 120gb way cheaper.

Can't tell you much on the case, never used one before. That said, I ordered one last week, old case I had was fine, just wanted a change. I have my system in a cooler master storm scout (original version), gifting it to someone else when I build in the deep cool case that should be here Friday.
 

WildCard999

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I would not go with a cheap case as you'll eventually want something better quality or cable management, the Phantek the OP chose is excellent quality for the price. As for the SSD it's worth the extra $5 for the WD M.2 drive due to the faster speed, 10gb extra space and the fact it's a M.2 drive so it's directly connected to the motherboard so no cables. Also a 120gb SSD won't last very long space wise, especially if the OP was to download a larger game that can utilize the SSD speeds for longer loading screens such as BF1/BF4. The Sandisk Plus is ok as I've used it in budget builds but with other better SSD's within close price I would pass.
 

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I would go for a slightly cheaper case, such as the Corsair 270R. I assume your budget is less than $1000?
I case I recommend this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($196.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($93.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($83.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($89.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Western Digital - RE3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($41.33 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB SC GAMING Video Card ($269.89 @ OutletPC)
Case: Corsair - 270R ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA - B3 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($66.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($92.99 @ B&H)
Total: $996.02
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-09-13 01:00 EDT-0400

Reasoning:
RAM: you don't really need 16gb unless you are doing video editing. I would suggest going for 16gb if you do need to do video editing.
SSD: money saved from RAM went towards a nice, spacious and incredibly fast SSD.
Case: the Corsair 270R is still a very nice case, but will save some money to go towards the PSU
PSU: while a lower wattage, the B3 is a higher quality PSU than the S12II, and moreover is fully-modular, which is very nice for cable management.
 
Just my opinion, but I can't recommend Intel work coffee lake right around the corner. If you feel like you would prefer Intel, then I'd suggest holding off until coffee lake drops and buy after you see what those look like. At the very least maybe they will give a price break on kaby lake gear.
 

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Honestly I don't really see a reason to go for an i5 in this day an age. 2 cores and 8 threads missing, and not hugely higher single core performance, in addition to a higher cost (due to Z270 motherboard and a decent cooler, the Wraith spire being far superior to an intel stock cooler.) In addition AMD has said they will use the AM4 socket until 2020, where the LGA1151 socket is already at the end of its short lifespan.
 
You are not going to upgrade CPU before 2020 anyway, if you buy a good CPU now. On the other hand you buy a Ryzen and live with all the memory issues we see people.post about all the time. Yes it works with slow memory but then Ryzen loose some good performance because it's IPCare bound to memory speed.
For gaming Intel are best. If you choose I5 or I7 is up.to your wallet. Also games don't care much that you are missing 2 cores, they care much more that you have the extra clock speed.
 

Lehan123456789

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Point taken about a CPU lasting for 3 years, but the upgrade path, should you need to, is far more compelling. Most of the memory issues with Ryzen have been ironed out, and while you should do your homework on what memory your motherboard has been tested with, this is by no means a huge issue. Honestly going without an SSD at this price is foolish, but due to the price of the Intel platform, you must do so. The difference in gaming performance is really marginal, as shown here. It will easily be outweighed by the better upgrade path, relative cheapness, and significantly better productivity performance.
 

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I don't like that case because I like to see my components, and also 16 GB is a good amount of RAM especially for speed.
 

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Silly me, I chose the version without the side panel window! The 100R is good, and has a window.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Case: Corsair - 100R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $49.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-09-14 05:14 EDT-0400

In alignment with these benchmarks, I have suggested 8gb for gaming. You can always upgrade it later with relative cheapness.
 
I'm running 8gb for gaming myself, have for years. I can tell you for most games now, 8gb is enough. Every once in a while you might need more.

The other thing besides your budget though is that memory progress are pretty high right now, so you may just get the 8 for now, then when prices bottom out, you could upgrade to look 32 or something.