I'm finally going to make the leap to I tell I e been with AMD for a while now and i love it but it's time for an upgrade. I currently have a fx 8350, But I'm changing to intel. I was thinking of going with an i5 7400 or and i5 7500. Would any of those cpu's be viable to gaming I know that they don't oc but personally I don't want too cause knowing my luck I would kill it in the process. And if they are not good for gaming any recommendations for a better cpu my budget is about 200$ ish for cpu and 100$ for mb. Any recommendations would be awesome. Ty and have a nice day.
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nitinvaid20
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go for Intel Core i5-7600K for gaming but if you can wait for the new 8th Gen CPU it will be good otherwise go for current generation now
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7600k is a poor value if not overclocking, doesn't even come with a cooler.
Right this second I believe AMD's Ryzen is the better buy for the money. You can get a 6 core 12 thread CPU for about the same price as an i5-7600k and it comes with a cooler. And the motherboards are typically cheaper and allow for overclocking (B350). I know you say you don't want to do it, but even through software it is a few clicks away. You don't have to shoot for the moon, just a few hundred Mhz here and there for free essentially.
When Intel's 6 core i5 is available, that will likely be the better purchase for gaming and maybe productivity.
Right this second I believe AMD's Ryzen is the better buy for the money. You can get a 6 core 12 thread CPU for about the same price as an i5-7600k and it comes with a cooler. And the motherboards are typically cheaper and allow for overclocking (B350). I know you say you don't want to do it, but even through software it is a few clicks away. You don't have to shoot for the moon, just a few hundred Mhz here and there for free essentially.
When Intel's 6 core i5 is available, that will likely be the better purchase for gaming and maybe productivity.
ohiou_grad_2006
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Honestly for your price range, I'd go just as stated above. Grab an AMD Ryzen 1600 6 core with SMT(think hyperthreading) and a B350 series board so that you can overclock.
I had an FX 6300 previously. The 1600 is a nice upgrade. For single core perfomance, it's on the level with intel haswell cpu's. But for multitasking, it even does better than the i7 cpus. I had mine overclocked to 3.7ghz on stock cooling, but I just changed the cooler, maybe I'll try to go higher who knows.
But all that said, for games or application that are single threaded, the intel will have a slight advantage. However, when you start doing more than just gaming or if you do multiple things at once, the 1600 is going to throw down. It's not a slouch for gaming either. The 7600k is what like 10-15% faster on single threaded? So you are a talking a few frames, but if you are on a 60hz monitor, then you won't see the difference of say 120 fps vs 110 fps.
Other bad thing going intel right now is coffee lake comes out in like a month. I'm not sure that the current motherboards will work with the new coffee lake cpus. So if you drop the money on i5 now, for a quad, in a month they are supposed to release 6 core i5 cpus(no hyperthreading), but if the board you buy today won't support a newer cpu, you are out of luck. Rumor is the new i3 will be quad core, so your i5 is basically a fast i3 at that point.
If memory serves, the socket am4 that Ryzen is on is supposed to be supported until 2020, so you may be able to go with Ryzen, then drop in a newer cpu in a couple years or so, as it looks like they will bringing out improved versions later as well.
This link should give you an idea.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-ryzen-5-1600-1600x-vs-core-i5-7500k-review
Keep in mind, most games/software is optimized toward intel currently, so if Ryzen is already doing this well, if developers begin to optimize more for it as well, then it should get a bit better as well.
I had an FX 6300 previously. The 1600 is a nice upgrade. For single core perfomance, it's on the level with intel haswell cpu's. But for multitasking, it even does better than the i7 cpus. I had mine overclocked to 3.7ghz on stock cooling, but I just changed the cooler, maybe I'll try to go higher who knows.
But all that said, for games or application that are single threaded, the intel will have a slight advantage. However, when you start doing more than just gaming or if you do multiple things at once, the 1600 is going to throw down. It's not a slouch for gaming either. The 7600k is what like 10-15% faster on single threaded? So you are a talking a few frames, but if you are on a 60hz monitor, then you won't see the difference of say 120 fps vs 110 fps.
Other bad thing going intel right now is coffee lake comes out in like a month. I'm not sure that the current motherboards will work with the new coffee lake cpus. So if you drop the money on i5 now, for a quad, in a month they are supposed to release 6 core i5 cpus(no hyperthreading), but if the board you buy today won't support a newer cpu, you are out of luck. Rumor is the new i3 will be quad core, so your i5 is basically a fast i3 at that point.
If memory serves, the socket am4 that Ryzen is on is supposed to be supported until 2020, so you may be able to go with Ryzen, then drop in a newer cpu in a couple years or so, as it looks like they will bringing out improved versions later as well.
This link should give you an idea.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-ryzen-5-1600-1600x-vs-core-i5-7500k-review
Keep in mind, most games/software is optimized toward intel currently, so if Ryzen is already doing this well, if developers begin to optimize more for it as well, then it should get a bit better as well.
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For a cheaper buy, I would go with a Ryzen for right now, I am personally not a fan of Ryzens, but you cannot deny the price is much lower than anything around the same quality. Otherwise if you decide to save up a bit more, i7 7700k are the greatest things since sliced bread.
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^ you can say that about the 7700k but the fact is when the i5 6 cores drop at $70-80 cheaper they are simply going to be a better buy.
It makes about as much sense to even think of buying an i5 now as it did to buy an fx chip back in February when ryzen was due.
It makes about as much sense to even think of buying an i5 now as it did to buy an fx chip back in February when ryzen was due.
ohiou_grad_2006
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I can't agree with that. Lol. I'm an AMD fan so you know...they are fine cpus though. If I'm going for intel, I would wait for coffee lake at this point I think.
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@ohiou_grad_2006 - my reply was aimed at Darkvillain regarding the 7700k (I'm on mobile so cant do quotes)
I don't see the coffee lake chips affecting the mid range ryzen r5s much of at all because I expect them to be $50 more expensive at least.
I don't see the coffee lake chips affecting the mid range ryzen r5s much of at all because I expect them to be $50 more expensive at least.
ohiou_grad_2006
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I actually was replying to him as well lol. You just beat me to it
I'm an AMD guy and am happy with ryzen, I'm just saying the 7700k is a fine cpu, however if I were an intel guy, I'd wait until coffee lake launches. However on a budget like the op has, I don't think he'll do much better than a quality B350 board and a Ryzen 1600 for a 300 dollar price point.
Really, even coffee lake, he'd be hard pressed to get as good of a deal.
I saw this on forbes, supposedly leaked prices for coffee lake, don't ask me if these are true or not
https://www.forbes.com/sites/antonyleather/2017/09/11/leaked-prices-reveal-stunning-intel-8th-generation-coffee-lake-cpus-six-cores-from-300/#30c890be3586
If those are accurate, then for even an 8600k, according a calculator on google, you'd be about 360 dollars for the 6 core i5 8600k. Even the the i5 8400 which is locked I think looks like 250+ dollars. Hard to recommend that when I can have 6 cores and 12 threads.
I'm an AMD guy and am happy with ryzen, I'm just saying the 7700k is a fine cpu, however if I were an intel guy, I'd wait until coffee lake launches. However on a budget like the op has, I don't think he'll do much better than a quality B350 board and a Ryzen 1600 for a 300 dollar price point.
Really, even coffee lake, he'd be hard pressed to get as good of a deal.
I saw this on forbes, supposedly leaked prices for coffee lake, don't ask me if these are true or not
https://www.forbes.com/sites/antonyleather/2017/09/11/leaked-prices-reveal-stunning-intel-8th-generation-coffee-lake-cpus-six-cores-from-300/#30c890be3586
If those are accurate, then for even an 8600k, according a calculator on google, you'd be about 360 dollars for the 6 core i5 8600k. Even the the i5 8400 which is locked I think looks like 250+ dollars. Hard to recommend that when I can have 6 cores and 12 threads.
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