Video card compatibility with monitor

ayedibilel87

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Hello everyone

I have a quite old Asus gaming laptop with Gtx 850m on it. The monitor it has is horrible. It doesn't support 1080p resolution and colors aren't that good. I wanted to buy a better montior to have a better picture quality and to be able to play with 1080p resolution. I didn't know much about monitors. My research was based on the image quality (IPS vs TN). I ended up with samsung ls27f350h. The monitor is fantastic and the picture quality is awesome but I noticed a significant drop of fps. I Used to run games with45/50 fps, and now I play with 25 fps at most. I figured it is time to upgrade and decided to build a pc with geforce gtx 1070. I started buying parts for the build, but when I did a further research, I learned that the monitor I bought has Freesync and 75 vertical frequence (pitted against the 144 frequence recommended by most). I am about to spend 1700 dollars on the new build. I am afraid that even with the new pc I will have a bad fps because of the monitor. I need your advice before I finish buying parts for the build. Do you think the fps drop is due to the monitor-GPU incompatibility, or is it that my laptop simply cannot handle games with 1080p resolution. Here are the specs of my laptop:
CPU: Core I 7 - 4710
Memory: 8 Gb
GPU: nvidia Geforce gtx 850m.
V-Ram: 4 gb

Here are the specs of the future build
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vVk3Ps

Thanks
 
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Just because you use a Nvidia GPU with a Freesync monitor does not mean your FPS will be affected - it'll just mean that the Freesync feature of your monitor will not be utilized. If that does not trouble you, there's no compatibility issue here.

One suggestion though - if your monitor isn't 144 Hz, don't get that system. Get a Ryzen 5 1600, with a B350 board(or X370 board if you want to SLI in the future, though I don't recommend it). For the 75 Hz your monitor(I'm taking your word for it here and not searching for it myself), a Ryzen chip will be better simply because of better value and similar performance. A Ryzen 5 1600 is a six-core 12-thread chip rather than the 4-core 8-thread of the i7. It'll last longer in games, and at 75...
Just because you use a Nvidia GPU with a Freesync monitor does not mean your FPS will be affected - it'll just mean that the Freesync feature of your monitor will not be utilized. If that does not trouble you, there's no compatibility issue here.

One suggestion though - if your monitor isn't 144 Hz, don't get that system. Get a Ryzen 5 1600, with a B350 board(or X370 board if you want to SLI in the future, though I don't recommend it). For the 75 Hz your monitor(I'm taking your word for it here and not searching for it myself), a Ryzen chip will be better simply because of better value and similar performance. A Ryzen 5 1600 is a six-core 12-thread chip rather than the 4-core 8-thread of the i7. It'll last longer in games, and at 75 Hz, you'll never tell the difference between a 7700K and a 1600. Here's my recommended changes to your build, if you wish to incorporate them:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($196.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - B350 GAMING PRO CARBON ATX AM4 Motherboard ($129.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill - TridentZ RGB 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($350.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: ADATA - Ultimate SU800 512GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($154.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($68.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card ($469.89 @ Amazon)
Case: Phanteks - ECLIPSE P400S TEMPERED GLASS ATX Mid Tower Case ($95.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.97 @ Amazon)
Total: $1577.07
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-09-15 07:23 EDT-0400

In fact, you could even get a Ryzen 7 1700 processor for your budget - that'll be an 8-core 16-thread processor, and believe me, it's not overkill for gaming.
 
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ayedibilel87

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Thank you so much Shektron. I am now relieved that there is no incompatibility issue. As for the CPU, I was, indeed, hesitating between Ryzen and Intel Kaby lake, but I got too hasty and purchased the z270 mobo.
 


I shouldn't be saying this since it's a bit rude, but bad choice. Z270 is really going to die fast now with Coffee Lake. If possible, I highly suggest you either sell the motherboard to someone else or return it if possible. It'll really limit your choices with such a nice budget(in fact you don't have much more after the 7700K - a processor still very capable, but not for long).
 

ayedibilel87

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I understand. What made me lean towards Intel is this thread.
http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-3456547/pairing-ryzen-nvidia-gpu.html
The problem is that the mother boards that support ryzen and that are available where I live (Asus Prime b350 plus and Msi b350m mortar) have crappy audio. The z270 is a better mobo than the two available ryzen-supporting ones. Besides, benchmarks comparing ryzen 7 1700 and I7-7700k, show that the latter has better fps due to its faster core clock speed.
 

ayedibilel87

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I did it. I returned the motherboard. They're gonna test it and if everything is alright, they will accept. Meanwhile, I have to decide which of the two available b350 motherboards to choose.
 


The OP in that thread is getting a 1080 Ti for 1080p. That would indeed qualify as high refresh rate, in which case an 8700K would be worth waiting for(Intel's next gen, that is). With a 1070 and 1080p monitor, if you set the details to Ultra, most games won't go very high in FPS, and hence the Ryzen CPU would suffice, and, in fact, be better. As for crappy audio, sound cards aren't that expensive. Again, the better FPS with the 7700K will matter if you have a high refresh rate monitor. Plus, at ultra settings with a 1070, you'll be GPU-limited in most games, so it really doesn't matter.



Glad you took the advice. Trust me, you won't regret it :). If you can get a B350 Tomahawk somehow, it's pretty good, otherwise the B350-Plus from Asus is fine.