1600(x) vs 7700k

Sochie · Sep 17, 2017

so the question is $250-300 ryzen 1600(x) or $400+ Intel i7-7700k

Stock 1600x pretty good but what's the point of buying x370 board when OC not much better than just stock 1600x on cheap board or b350??

But i7 k must get z170 z270 and after market fan almost $700-800+ for this (cdn here by the way)

So my question is more like how much better is i7/270/fan -$700-800 than 1600(x)/b350/fan - 450-550

1600@ $259 with the decent spire by the way... can get cheap b350 board for 100 so you can even get 1600with fan and board for like 360 which is cheaper than i7-7700k which is like 400-450cdn no fan no mobo

1600x + b350 (or even the cheaper non oc model VS i7 z170. So my rough statement would be Intel is twice as expensive but for maybe 25% gaming gain if that??

Also would there be any CPU bottleneck with gtx1070 or 1080 on the ryzen??

If it makes the difference between 1070 and 1080 which is better?

Ryzen with 1080 or Intel with 1070?

RyZ with 1080 right? Or?? Also keep in mind would get best ram for ryz to optimize

SENOR BURTOS · Sep 17, 2017

go ryzen 5 1600 and gtx 1080/1080 ti

IT doesn't matter if you get an i9, so long the card is slow you are not going to see any benefits.

Both the ryzen and the i7 will deliver a good gaming experience. You don't understand bottlenecks

there's not way not to bottleneck a GPU, it comes down to software optimization, in some games the i7 is clearly better than the ryzen 5, some are heavily multithreaded so the R5 will be a better buy.

As a general rule the i7 is the king when it comes to gaming. Though it only matters when you play above 60 FPS or in very specific games. For the most part the R5 is perfect and will allow you to get a 1080

Forget about the 1600X they are a tough sell

For the price of the 1600X you can get the 1600 (which you can OC with the bundled cooler and get the same performance as the 1600X), save a couple of dollars and put that money elsewhere.

If you can't have a better VGA, case or whatever with that extra money then go with the 1600, get a better cooler and you will ve able to do 3.9-4 ghz easily

Ballizt · Sep 17, 2017

Technically overall Ryzen with a 1080 is a beastly and a VERY good combo. But it depends how much you care about performance. For gaming and ONLY gaming intel all the way sometimes getting up to +10 fps with the 7700k vs the 1600(x). I have a R7 1700x with a gtx 1080ti. I have r7 because I stream edit, photoshop, and hardcore game. I could care less on losing 2-6fps on a game with a 1080 if it makes my job easier. Literately everything but gaming fps on ryz, is better than 7700k. So you choose put all performance towards gaming, or spread performance through your computer to make other things better (If you do other things like editing, if not obv intel)

TechyInAZ · Sep 17, 2017

Ryzen with 1080 for sure. The 1600X is a very capable CPU, sure the 7700K beats it, but only by a small amount of FPS.

Just to put that into perspective, the 1600X equals or beats pretty much ALL CPUs except for the 7700k.

There will be no bottlenecking.

penn919 · Sep 17, 2017

25% Gaming gain sounds about right, but it really depends on the game. Checkout benchmarks on the types of games you want to run. Steve Walton from hardware unboxed just did an article regarding 1600 vs i7 7700k. I believe there was a difference of only 5% at 1080p and 2% at 1440P, so I guess bios updates, game optimizations, and drivers have started to even things out a bit.

Personally, I would go with the 1600 due to the price difference. The 7700k is not worth the premium. Also, the Z270 platform will soon be abandoned whilst the AM4 socket will be supported for 4 or 5 years.

Btw, here's a link to t he recent comparison from Steve Walton:

https://www.techspot.com/review/1490-ryzen-vs-core-i7-vega-64-geforce-1080/

SENOR BURTOS · Sep 17, 2017

penn919 :

That's right the AM4 socket is expected to last until 2020

while 100-series and 200-series Intel motherboards will be discontinued soon, it's best to wait for coffee lake and 300-series boards for that matter

geofelt · Sep 17, 2017

From a performance point of view, there are two questions:

1. How many threads can you use?
Ryzen 1600X will have 12 while 7700K will have 8.
Few games can usefully use more than 4.
If you main use is editing or other production apps that can use many cores, then ryzen is better.

2. How important is single thread speed?
games such as strategy, mmo and sims depend on a fast single master core.
Ryzen will OC to about 4.0 while 7700K will be around 5.0
For games, 7700K will be better.

If your budget is flexible, it might pay to wait a couple of weeks to see what coffee lake brings. You should see more threads ar a higher clock.

coozie7 · Sep 17, 2017

@ Sochie: Apart from the type of games you'll be playing-as mentioned by Geofelt-you may also want to consider what other uses you'll put the system to; For gaming/streaming, CPU based rendering or video encoding Ryzen with its extra cores/threads leads to way by a fair margin.

Monitor resolution and refresh rate are important for gaming so we really need to know the monitor specs before we can give any really solid advice here.

If you're in no great rush, Coffee Lake is due to be released Oct 5th and my be a suitable option for you.

adamsleath · Sep 17, 2017

better with 6 core. some games are optimised for higher core count. such as gta 5, bf1. bf1 even maxes out a 7700k ...cpu at 100% is never good. by the same token a 6 core coffeelake at 4.5 GHz? what a beast! 1600x is awesome bang for your buck if your budget is important. it is one of the most popular cpus right now.

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