Radeon jaton quad hd3450 video card

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So I have an HD3450 card for a cheap multi monitor setup ($1.25) and found a jaton quad version with 2 dms ports. It is apparent a dual gpu version with each one having 512mb of ram. I can't find any reviews or anything other than specs. Was just wondering if anyone had any info on it. Also please no "you need a new gpu" or other recommendations. It's purely for the fun of testing old hardware. Plus I kinda already bought it lol
 
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I understand completely that cheap trailing-edge hardware is sometimes just for fun. In local used-computer-parts stores around here, there are piles of Win 10 compatible HD4870 and GTX260 cards for $5 each, and I find myself buying the slower GT730 or HD7730 class cards instead for the same price, just to not have to deal with the power requirements of those older but faster cards. After all, I do already have better machines for gaming.

The point is, once things get old and worthless enough, they tend to all approach the same price so it's up to you to choose between faster or newer--choosing both slow and old is puzzling unless that's really all that's available locally over there. The price of shipping and the nature of...
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I appreciate the response. I've found specs on cnet but they don't have an over view. At at least it wouldn't load idk. But I can't find any info anywhere past that. Also I think it's odd the have it as an AGP maybe there's multiple variants as mine is a PCI-E card. I was looking to see if anyone has any performance charts or knows how it compares to the single gpu variant
 
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What's there to know about it? You'll need DMS-59 cables to use up to four VGA or DVI, and there's exactly one Windows 10 driver for it (it's on WindowsUpdate). With two GPUs on the same card it has a PCIe switch chip just like a 295x2 or HD7990, but obviously unlike those isn't the least bit suited for games. It's also too old to hardware accelerate H.264 videos in Flash.

It's not odd at all to have an AGP variant as a bridge chip can be used to convert from PCIe, as in the AGP HD4650 and HD4670. Note the AGP variant can only have one GPU as multiple GPUs on AGP only worked in Windows 9x such as with the Rage Fury MAXX.
 
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Thanks for the replies. I completely understand this is just a little better version of a card that can only be described as a display output. I really wanted it so I could output to a third or maybe fourth monitor. As for the performance part of my question I was just curios if it would play the old games I play on it in my spare time better. Mainly GTA SAN ANDREAS lol.
 
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GTA:SA came out in 2005 and uses no shaders at all, so a single HD3450 is slower in that game than the very first ever DX9 card: the 9700 Pro from 2002.

GTA:SA has worked in Crossfire since December 2008 but is likely to only be satisfactory at 2002-ish vintage display resolutions such as 1024x768. Furthermore, the only Windows 10 driver doesn't work with CCC so cannot enable Crossfire. Windows XP and 7 should work fine though.

I have to wonder though why you'd opt to use a HD3450 for games, considering even integrated graphics have been faster for many years now. Intel may only update their drivers for a couple years (leading to glitches and rendering errors for newer games), but that game is so old it presumably would just work. And AMD has had faster IGPs and APUs since their 790GX chipset in 2008, which is the same year the HD3450 came out. To add further insult, the HD3300 in that chipset can even hardware decode H.264 videos in Flash today to take the load off the CPU, while the HD3450 can't--despite having the same core only clocked slower.

BTW, MSRP for the HD3450 was $49 in 2008. At the time, the world's best gaming card was the 8800GTX Ultra which sold for $800 and should give you an idea of the relative performance. 9 years is a long time though: $60 today (equivalent to $52 in 2008) gets you a used 750Ti which is just as fast as the Ultra in such old games but much, much faster in new ones--and uses 115w less power to boot.

Your dual HD3450 should work fine to add 4 monitors for desktop use (or to run the only monitors for Vista and 7 which require the same driver for all GPUs).
 
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It was not bought for gaming by any means. I know a good bit about hard ware and know it was abysmal. I'm also just broke. I wanted a dual monitor for an old computer on a am2 board that I use for office and stuff running windows 7. So I found then HD3450 for $1.50. I figured I couldn't go wrong with something so cheap. And even if I didn't like it I was only out a dollar. And it works perfectly fine. But I like to keep my "work" and "fun computers separate. But being in different rooms sometimes I take a break and just play gta sa for 20 or 30 minutes. It runs well enough for me. And for the dual monitor setup the card is just fine. Then I found the dual gpu variant for $3 and figure the single works fine so why not upgrade for shits and giggles. Plus I could use another monitor. So I bought it. I already have a good gaming card in the "fun" rig. And I completely understand the HD3450 dual or not is absolutely terrible for gaming And not made for it at all. I just got it for a dollar, you know?
 
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I understand completely that cheap trailing-edge hardware is sometimes just for fun. In local used-computer-parts stores around here, there are piles of Win 10 compatible HD4870 and GTX260 cards for $5 each, and I find myself buying the slower GT730 or HD7730 class cards instead for the same price, just to not have to deal with the power requirements of those older but faster cards. After all, I do already have better machines for gaming.

The point is, once things get old and worthless enough, they tend to all approach the same price so it's up to you to choose between faster or newer--choosing both slow and old is puzzling unless that's really all that's available locally over there. The price of shipping and the nature of having people from other countries bid combine to make such old technology ridiculously expensive on places like eBay.

As it is, you are running Windows 7 so Crossfire should work fine, especially for light gaming with old games. AM2 doesn't have an IGP so you have to use something, and if you think about it, it's the prevalence of IGP in nearly everything nowadays that depresses the resale value of such low-end discrete cards to just a few bucks.
 
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Thanks man. I do enjoy taking old high end stuff and even low end and seeing how far I can push it, just for fun. Although I never even thought about trying this with the HD3450. And locally there is literally not any place to find used PC parts for 100 miles in any direction. And when you do find one here or there they want insane prices. So unfortunately eBay is my only go to. Coincidentally I was trying to get a gtx 260 a couple days ago and stopped my bid at 10$ because I felt it wasn't worth it anymore as I already had a 460 laying around that I paid 17$ for. Anyways before I get off topic and ramble too much. I can't wait to get the jaton dual HD3450 in. I hadn't thought about it but I think I might try and see if I can squeeze any decent lowend performance in older games over the single HD3450. Thanks again. It's nice to find some good people on these forums that don't just say get a gtx 9/1050 then weigh price to performance and call me a dumb a** kinda nice.
 
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