Ryzen 3 1300X or Ryzen 5 1400?

destinywarlock55 · Sep 20, 2017

Hello, I am thinking about upgrading my current PC, my budget is $350. So far my specs are;
Fx-4300
Rx-460 2gb
Evga 450W
16gb ram
GA-78LMT-SC mobo
Im thinking about upgrading my cpu, to a Ryzen 3 1300X, with a new am4 mobo, and 8gb of ddr4 RAM.
But I was wondering if there are any other options for an upgrade within that budget. Thank you!
Also I mostly play these games;
StarCraft 2
Overwatch
War thunder
Team fortress 2
(I'm not sure if there cpu intensive games)

chemmajorp53 · Sep 20, 2017

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JCJppb

Then sell your current stuff and you should only be spending ~$180-200 to upgrade. Might want to consider upgrading your PSU at some point too if you plan on ever getting a more powerful video card. That's not a super reliable unit.

InvalidError · Sep 20, 2017

There are only four CPUs in the whole Ryzen lineup that are worth considering IMO: the 1200, 1400, 1600 and 1700.

None of the 'X' model make any sense to me since XFR is disabled the moment you decide to overclock, the non-X and X versions overclock to pretty much exactly the same levels where applicable and you can get most of that overclock using the stock cooler, saving you the added expense of aftermarket cooling when going with the 'X' variants.

Since the 1400 gives you SMT, that's an extra ~30% performance in heavily threaded workloads and possibly a few extra years in useful life for gaming.

feelinfroggy777 · Sep 20, 2017

If had a slightly better CPU and video card prices were not crazy I would tell you to go get a new GPU. The issue is your CPU is really outdated and the platform is dead. Pairing a good CPU with the 460 is like driving a sports car in a school zone.

I would try and do the best of both worlds and take a step down to a R3 1200 and get a 1050ti. This will be a significant improvement over your current system. It will put you over budget by $60, but I think your gaming experience will be much better.

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/J2RBkT
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/J2RBkT/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 1200 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($108.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($73.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($87.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Video Card ($146.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $417.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-09-20 13:39 EDT-0400

vapour · Sep 20, 2017

Ryzen 1300X (comes with a cooler) + MSI B350M Gaming PRO AM4 AMD B350 combo -> $200

https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.3647598

Corsair 16 gb 3000mhz RAM, as Ryzen loves high Hz RAM -> $128

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6ntWGX/corsair-vengeance-lpx-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-3000-memory-cmk16gx4m2b3000c15w

For PSU you may consider this has good promotion atm, Seasonic 520W 80+ -> <$30 (You can waive shipping cost 5.99 if you have amex card)

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/fZyFf7/seasonic-power-supply-s12ii520bronze

Sell all those old parts should give you at least $ 50 to cover all those upgrades

destinywarlock55 · Sep 20, 2017

I don't see a big difference between the gtx 1050 and the rx-460 though, I know that the gtx 1050 is slightly better. I personally don't think it's worth the extra $120.

destinywarlock55 · Sep 20, 2017

The problem with selling my current hardware, is that it's a prebuilt pc so I don't have the boxes or anything, and will anyone even buy a used fx-4300 in 2017. The rx-460 however might be worth something

destinywarlock55 · Sep 20, 2017

Should I just try to upgrade my cpu to a fx-6350 and then pair it with a gtx 1050 ti or something?

feelinfroggy777 · Sep 20, 2017

destinywarlock55 :

I would not put any money into the AM3 platform. Maybe I would go for a fx 8xxx series for less than $50 and get a 1050ti. Even then, they are not very good chips. You are right, you wont get much for your system as a whole. Pending on where you live, you may get a decent price for the RAM and the 460 individually. RAM prices are crazy high right now and that includes ddr3.

feelinfroggy777 · Sep 20, 2017

destinywarlock55 :

No, I would not do it for the 1050. But the 1050 ti is MUCH BETTER than the 460.

destinywarlock55 · Sep 20, 2017

So I have 2 options;
Ryzen 3 1200
8gb ddr4 ram
B350M GAMING PRO

Or;
Fx-8300
Gtx-1050 ti

Will upgrading just my cpu and to ddr4 ram really give me a boost in gaming?

dudeman509 · Sep 20, 2017

destinywarlock55 :

Can't put DDR4 in a FX system.

I wouldn't buy a FX chip either.

Start over with Ryzen.

vapour · Sep 20, 2017

destinywarlock55 :

With Fx-8300, you are not getting any future upgrades done easily.

Get Ryzen 3 and you can switch to Ryzen 7 later if needed, also ddr 4 can be used on other boards, but fx-8300 boards

feelinfroggy777 · Sep 20, 2017

destinywarlock55 :

DDR4 wont work with the 8300. But that is good for you because you will be able to save money by using your DDR3 RAM. For the short term, the fx 8xxx will give you better fps, no doubt. For the long term, the fx 8xxx is a dead platform. If you can find a good deal on the fx 8xxx, then it may be worth it to drive with it for a year and game. But you will have to upgrade everything sooner than later. So putting the money in a dead platform is kinda like throwing good money after bad.

destinywarlock55 · Sep 20, 2017

So option 1?
And about the ddr4 ram, I meant if I upgrade to a Ryzen 3 1200 with ddr4 ram, will it actually boost preformance ?
Sorry, should of had been more clear.

vapour · Sep 20, 2017

destinywarlock55 :

Yep, sell fx-6300 and board for some money back ~ Ryzen board is only using ddr4 I believe and they love high frequency Rams

Short answer is yes.

destinywarlock55 · Sep 20, 2017

I have a fx-4300, and the board I have just completely "sucks", I don't think anyone will wanna buy it.lol.

I just think that even though the
fx-6300 isn't that great, I can still upgrade my gpu to a gtx-1050 ti SC
Or a 1060 3gb.

vapour · Sep 20, 2017

destinywarlock55 :

Absolutely, you may get 1050 ti now and upgrade all other things later.
FX-6300 is still decent for 1050 ti
http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-3223280/amd-6300-bottleneck-gtx-1050ti.html

destinywarlock55 · Sep 20, 2017

Ok then I'll just go for the fx-6300 and gtx 1050 ti FTW. But before I make it final, will my current mobo support 6 cores, because I heard that it's not compatible with the
fx-8300.

chemmajorp53 · Sep 20, 2017

Not sure who is suggesting it to you because I don't want to read the whole thread, but buying an FX 6300 when you have an FX 4300 is a terrible decision and an utter waste of money. Your CPU support is right here, a google search and a click away.

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-78LMT-USB3-rev-41#support-cpu

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