Need help for building a gaming pc

Ryzen is the better platform for longevity certainly, but I wouldn't say because of the core count. The 300 series boards and 8th gen CPUs won't work in older systems, and a new socket is planned for the next generation CPUs. So buying Intel now will lock you in to 6/7th gen CPUs.

AMD has promised to use the AM4 socket through 2020 at least, so there should be at least one more generation, possibly two, before they are done with it.

Games will only be optimized for higher core counts when that represents the majority of computers on the market. That is going to be a long while yet, since the bulk of the gaming masses don't play on powerful gaming desktops.

From your above list, the 6700 is a better cpu, but if you want to go Intel, wait for the next Gen. coming in about a month or so. Although it might outperform Ryzen, it will be costly, specially so for the first few weeks due to the hype.

You should wait for coffee lake i3-8350k quad core for about $185. Then get a low cost Z370, with 16GB's RAM 2667~3200, 250GB 960 evo, 1TB WD blue, GTX1060 6GB, and EVGA G2 550.
I also hear there may be a 1070ti coming for $399 and the 1070 will be repriced to $329 soon. Take the saves of the next gen i3 and get a better video card.

1. Ryzen does many things well but gaming isn't one of them. I'll give ya the data and yu can decide for yaself

Anadtech CPU Bench comparison

Game / Ryzen 1600 / 7600k

(1080p) GTX 1080: Civilization 6 / 60.43 / 49.40
(1080p) GTX 1080: Ashes Escalation / 66.50 / 57.74
(1080p) GTX 1080: Shadow of Mordor / 136.18 / 146.64
(1080p) GTX 1080: RoTR-1-Valley / 93.54 / 141.33
(1080p) GTX 1080: RoTR-2-Prophets / 89.42 / 112.71
(1080p) GTX 1080: RoTR-3-Mountain / 115.59 / 145.21
(1080p) GTX 1080: Rocket League / 119.76 / 184.87
(1080p) GTX 1080: Grand Theft Auto V / 84.97 / 88.59

That's a total of 766.39 fps for Ryzen 1600 and 926.49 fps for the 7600k, a 21% advantage to Intel.

Wehen w elook at TPus testing ...

BF1 / 173.80 / 222.10
Civilization VI / 79.50 / 57.30
DeusEx Mankind Divided / 96.60 / 123.60
Dishonored 2 / 86.90 / 97.50
Doom / 195.40 / 197.60
Fallout 4 / 62.30 / 82.50
Far Cry Primal / 95.80 / 128.00
Hitman / 79.90 / 95.70
Resident Evil 7 / 269.30 / 273.20
RotR / 122.70 / 204.00
Sniper Elite 4 / 151.30 / 182.60
Styx: Shards of Darkness / 210.30 / 233.60
Total War: Warhammer / 68.10 / 87.80
Watch Dogs 2 / 101.70 / 86.70
Witcher 3 / 129.00 / 139.30

That's a total of 1922.60 fps for Ryzen 1600 and a 2211.50 for the Intel 7600k ...a 15% advantage.

Ryzen 1200 - "Gaming performance doesn't match up to competing Intel parts"
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Ryzen_3_1200/21.html

Ryzen 1300X - "Single-threaded performance still lags behind competing Intel chips; Gaming performance slightly behind Intel chips"
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Ryzen_3_1300X/21.html

Ryzen 1400 - "Gaming performance in the league of cheaper Core i3 dual-core parts"
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Ryzen_5_1400/21.html

Ryzon 1500x - "Gaming frame-rates lower than competing Intel chips"
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Ryzen_5_1500X/20.html

Ryzen 1600 - "Gaming frame rates lower than competing Intel chips"
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Ryzen_5_1600/21.html

Ryzen 1600x - "Gaming frame rates lower than competing Intel chips"
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Ryzen_5_1600X/20.html

Ryzen 1800x - "Limited game performance"
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Ryzen_7_1800X/16.html

And there are other common issues listed in each review for a gaming box such as ...

-No IGP for that 2nd monitor to list system temps/ voltages, Discord, gaming web sites, etc
-Fewer memory options
-Complicated memory setup
-Little OC Headroom

Here we see the $205 7500 outperforming the $215 1600 and $240 1600x. That $35 cost performance pays for one of the best coolers on the market (Scyther Mugen Max)



An argument can be made that Ryzen gets cheaper because the MoBos are cheaper ... but that's an "apples and water melons" comparison. Yes you can use cheap MoBos, even on both ppoatforms with Intel B / H series. But the question is ... will the serve your needs. With Intel, you may have toi look harder for the bargains.

MSI Z270 SLI is $102 and w/ Intel CPU it gives you ..
-2nd Monitor option on IGP
-Option to upgrade to overclocklable CPU if ya don't get one outright (I would)
-2nd GFX card option
-up to 3800 memory speed
-2 M.2
-top level ALC 1220 audio
-Intel I219-V LAN
-6 fan connectors

For about $86 i can get the Gigabyte GA-AX370-Gaming w/ 20% off and $10 rebate as above ... for $16 is it worth losing ...

-No Monitor option on IGP
-No 2nd GFX card option
-600 drop in memory speed (I wouldn't miss this)
-only 1 M.2
-ALC 1220 audio drops to last generation extreme low budget ALC 892
-No more Intel LAN
-? fan connectors


2. Here's how the 580 and 1060 compare according to techpowerup

At 1080p the AIB 580 is about 3% faster than the reference 1060 and it overclovks 4.4% above that.
At 1080p the AIB 1060 is about 3% faster than the reference 1060 and it overclocks 15.1% above that.

So the 580 and 1060 are basically on an even keel... except if ya useing MSI Afterburner, you can expect about a 10% advantage from overclocking


3. 2 x 8 GB is the way to go go RAM, given current pricing DDr4-300 is only a few bucks more than 2133, so go for it.

4. Storage ... If ya get an SSD, don't get less than 250 GB. Id SSD kills ya budget, get an SSHD and out off the SSD for an upgrade. The SSHD will be 50$ faster than any HD ya can buy.

Ryzen isnt the best, but it isnt bad either. It can manage gaming pretty fine. If the 7700k gives you 135fps on an average for 3yrs across titles, the 1600 will give you 100fps or thereabout. Beyond 60fps to fps its not even that distinguishable to the naked eye unless you put a counter on your screen. The above figures are just an example.