Programs keep crashing and random blue screens. I'm all out of ideas.

brice917

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Specs:

i7 4770k
MSI Z87-G45
32GB Corsair Vengeance LPX
GTX 1080
ADATA 250GB
Corsair CX750M

This has been about 2 months of random blue screens. They can happen multiple times a day, once a month, once a week, etc.

Nothing specific seems to trigger it, I can be sitting on my desktop, playing a game, browsing the web.

I've:

Reseated the RAM
Run windows MemTest 2x
Changed the outlet
Replaced the PSU
Ran Prime95 for a few hours
Ran FurMark for a few hours
Reformatted the PC (which has made the BSOD happen every 30-60 mins of being idle on desktop)

And probably a few other things I can't remember at the moment.

The blue screen error I get is "Kernel Security Check Error" and it's always the exact same error. Event Viewer says "Critical: Kernel-Power: Event 41"

I'm at a total loss as to what is wrong, I feel like I have tested adequately enough that I should have reproduced or fixed the issue, but I haven't.


EDIT:

I solved my own issue: XMP. Once I disabled it, I've had no issues since.

Any help or insight is much appreciated!
 

blockhead78

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ok, that BSOD error is just from 'windows shut down unexpectedly', so doesn't give anything specific for you to go on.

given the steps you've already tried and the fact you've re-installed windows, it might suggest a component is failing, but there are a couple other things you could try

make sure bios is up to date and reset cmos
remove the CPU and check the socket for bent pins
run a chksdk

also, when you stress tested the CPU & GPU, what were the temps like?
 

brice917

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GPU evens out around 65-70 after a couple hours of use at 100%, and CPU gets to about 80.

I actually got a new error code last night.

"0x000000D1 DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL" but I'm assuming that's driver related due to a fresh install of W10.

I've also ran chkdsk and then promptly remembered afterwards that I have an SSD and that probably wasn't the greatest idea. That found nothing anyways.

I will try what you suggested in a few hours and update you.... although I have no reliable way to replicate the crash, so it could take a month for it to happen, or it could crash right away as it did 2x last night.

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Edit:

Ok, so I have done the following and will come back again if this doesn't work as I'll REALLY be stumped:

Reformatted PC
Checked BIOS was correct version
Reset factory settings in BIOS
Cleared CMOS
Re-seated RAM, GPU, CPU
Checked for bent CPU pins
Replaced thermal paste
Removed all PSU cable extensions (I had red braided cables)
Plugged directly into the wall instead of an extension cord

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Edit 2:

Aaaaaaaaaaaand we have another crash. I booted it up after all of the above and left it on the desktop, it crashed after about 3 hours.

We are back to the bugcheck error message of:

"The computer has rebooted from a bugcheck. The bugcheck was: 0x000000be (0xfffff30067281198, 0x8a00000003700121, 0xffffb781afaa0800, 0x000000000000000a). A dump was saved in: C:\Windows\MEMORY.DMP. Report Id: ada0773d-0c50-4563-9713-b4a6c9882537."

This is still just screaming bad RAM to me, anyone disagree?

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Edit 3:

Running MemTest86 for 1 hour on each stick.

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Edit 4:

Ran MemTest86 for 1 pass (about an hour) per stick. Each stick in a different RAM slot. No errors. Also ran all 4 sticks in for 2 hours. No errors.

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Edit 5:

Here are my error codes if that helps somehow:

BugcheckCode: 313
BugcheckParameter1: 0x3
BugcheckParameter2: 0xffff920051b9f1d0
BugcheckParameter3: 0xffff920051b9f128
BugcheckParameter4: 0x0

BugcheckCode: 209
BugcheckParameter1: 0xffffb90ebeb9bf68
BugcheckParameter2: 0x2
BugcheckParameter3: 0x0
BugcheckParameter4: 0xfffff80daff33037

BugcheckCode: 190
BugcheckParameter1: 0xfffff30067281198
BugcheckParameter2: 0x8a00000003700121
BugcheckParameter3: 0xffffb781afaa0800
BugcheckParameter4: 0xa

BugcheckCode: 190
BugcheckParameter1: 0xffffc97f9fffffe8
BugcheckParameter2: 0x8a00000003500121
BugcheckParameter3: 0xffff9c813964d790
BugcheckParameter4: 0xa

BugcheckCode: 126
BugcheckParameter1: 0xffffffffc0000005
BugcheckParameter2: 0xfffff80040493302
BugcheckParameter3: 0xffffae018c3b04c8
BugcheckParameter4: 0xffffae018c3afd10

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Edit 6:

After a last effort attempt at a fix, I ran SFC /scannow and.... it found a LOT of corrupt windows files (even though this is a fresh install). I got those all sorted out, also ran "verify integrity" of some games, which also found corrupt files, and successfully had a game going for 3+ hours. No crashes, no BSOD. After the fresh install, I was getting a BSOD after 30-60 mins of idling on the desktop. 9 BSOD's in 36 hours, to be exact.

Hopefully this helps someone somewhere, and hopefully this is actually a fix. I will update this post if the BSOD's come back, after all it has only been about 3 hours of testing.


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Edit 7:

And we have another game crash/BSOD last night, due to the same "your pc has restarted due to a bugcheck" error.

BugcheckCode: 0x51
BugcheckParameter1: 0x0000000000000011
BugcheckParameter2: 0xffff9a88cdefc258
BugcheckParameter3: 0x0000000000000000
BugcheckParameter4: 0x0000000000000000

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Edit 8:

Long story short, I turned off my rams XMP profile, and that seems to have completely solved the issue.

Every single time I try to download WoW with all 4 sticks in and XMP enabled, it throws errors every few minutes. This was used as my tester.

I used 1 stick in slot 1 with XMP enabled. No issue. Same for 1 in slot 2, then 2 in slot 1 & 2, then just slot 3, then slot 1, 2, 3, just slot 4, all in with XMP disabled. Absolutely no issues. As soon as I enabled XMP with 4 sticks in, errors everywhere. I ran through the whole 45gb download/install each time, and never once did it crash except for the 4 sticks + XMP.