Aging system... time to upgrade?

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ASUS Sabertooth z77
Core i5 3570k @ 4.3ghz (CM Hyper 212 EVO with a pair of Corsair SP120'S keeps it under 60 at load)
16gb Patriot Viper 3 1600 DDR3
ASUS ROG STRIX GTX 1070 Gaming
Thermaltake Bronze 700W PSU
A couple random SSD drives
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So here's what I'm playing with... back when I built it, it was amazing. The Tomb Raider reboot and Bioshock Infinite ran so smoothly. Now it seems like anything I throw at it with graphics has stutters / frameskips every few minutes at 1080p no matter how low the settings and on any version of Windows I try. It's super annoying. Been trying to play GTA V, Batman Telltale and Amazing Spiderman 2, mostly. Never Alone has been one game that gives me no problems and looks nice. Not sure where to start upgrading and how big of a difference it will make. I'm told RAM speed doesn't matter much and my i5 is still pretty fast with that OC.
 
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Besides task manager with individual CPU cores/threads set to on...process explore is very solid for watching CPU usage.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/
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In GTA V threading certainly could be holding you back and an i7 3770K with a nice OC could well fix things up for you. I am running an older i7 3930K @4.2GHZ and it holds up very well with 2 GTX 1080s for 4K gaming. I wouldn't think batman and amazing spiderman 2 would be as thread hungry though. Guess it is time to do some testing on my end. I'll get back to you on Amazing spiderman and threading as for tell tale batman, that is a game I lack but been meaning to buy for the wife. She loves everything tell tale.
 
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The 3570k is basically a3770k w/ HT turned off ... back then with the delidding having such significance, lotta folks were buying 3770Ks and turning off HT because it drop the CPU temps by 7C or nore and they were getting higher OCs. Without changing the MoBo, if it was video editing, you could benefit there, but in gaming, I have yet to see a game show significant improvement w/ more than 3 threads at 1080p

See the following link and remember that when comparing CPU impact on gaming testing is generally done at low resolutions to eliminate interference by GPU limits.
https://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/551?vs=701

My 21 year old son is playing all the new games with a 2500k @ 1440p and, tho he has the cash to upgrade, has not as yet chosen to do so.
 
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I heard both GTA V and Batman Telltale were a bit performance bugged. As for upgrading, it's not money that's an issue. I can work some overtime and get extra cash. The problem is that I don't know much about what's out there. I've always chosen Intel procs but I dig the new Ryzens. I just don't know how much of a performance boost I'm going to get out of it. I have an ASUS VG248 144Hz that I love but only does 1080p, but that's enough for me so I think the 1070 is still plenty of GPU.
 
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Yep you can keep PSU, SSD, 1070, but you will need new MB, ram for Ryzen build.
Suggestion:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($196.74 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - B350M GAMING PRO Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($138.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $405.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-09-22 23:39 EDT-0400

You can also get higher end MB depending on your preference :) Some game fps video for this set:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ji1V96FE4Us
 
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So yeah tested spiderman. It uses 4 threads heavy usage (40-50%) and 4 threads fairly light usage(15-25%). So your quad core COULD be causing your trouble but the usage isn't that heavy on 8 threads to make me think 4 threads wouldn't do fine with your OC and Ivy bridge CPU compared to my older sandy bridge, even though I have a core count advantage. With 12 thrreads I am only seeing as stated 8 in use and then only 4 with >40% usage when all settings/resolutions are on low to try and force a CPU bottleneck...which I couldn't. My CPU's single thread and multi-thread IPC were more then enough for the workload. Point being your slightly newer 4C should be enough in Spiderman. Have you tried setting Vsync on and off?

What is your CPU usage in the game in task manger or process explorer (per thread usage) for spiderman, GTA V and Batman?
 
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I am at work at the moment but will check when I get home. Are there any good programs for logging cpu usage? That's the one thing I'm missing. I am able to keep track of everything else pretty well.
 
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