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williamgummy

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I have had a recurring issue with two separate graphics cards now, a gtx 970 and now a new 1070 where they will idle at 130F and only cool down during gaming. With the old card it would reach up 140F and my computer would crash from high temp. Any ideas?
 
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A good quality 520w or higher PSU is all you need. Here's a few suggestions in various price ranges.
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/TgW9TW,fZyFf7,DPCwrH,bkp323/
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Most gpu's now a days turn the fans off till when idle or under light load and the gpu is under 60°C(140°f). Most gpu's have a thermal limit close to 100°C(212°F). If you want it to run cooler at idle you just need to install an program like MSI's Afterburner or EVGA's Precision and set a custom fan curve.

The 970 has a max temp of 98°C and the 1070s is 94°C.

The 970 should not have been shutting down at a mere 60°C
 
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After I started to run into problems with the 970 I downloaded open hardware monitor and it said my temp limit was 140 if I didn't put my fans at atleast 85% speed it would overheat during idle, I'm guessing somewhere in my computer something, probably software is pre-settling this weird limit if what your saying is true.
 
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Here's my invoice for the whole purchase
KB-159-102 AZZA MULTIMEDIA/ INTERNET USB RED BACKLIT KEYBOARD 1 9.00 9.00
MO-125-102 AZZA ALPHA RED LED USB GAMING MOUSE 1 8.00 8.00
CU-200-522 AMD A10-7850K 3.70GHZ (4.0GHZ TURBO) RADEON R7 APU, 9 1 565.00 565.00
5W RETAIL
HD-403-303 2TB HDD 3.5" SATAIII 7200RPM 6.0GB/s 64MB CACHE 1 29.00 29.00
RM-501-107 GSKILL 8 GB DDR3 2133 MHZ RIPJAWS 2 37.00 74.00
FA-104-121 RED CASE FAN 120MM W/LED 3 5.00 15.00
FA-HD-101 VIGOR ISURF II HARDDRIVE COOLING 1 21.00 21.00
FA-WATER-141 DEEPCOOL CAPTAIN 240 CAPTAIN 240MM CPU WATER COOLER 1 91.00 91.00
FA-104-502 THERMALTAKE RIING 120MM HIGH STATIC PRESSURE RED LED 4 0.00 0.00
FAN
LABEL-101 CYBERPOWER SYSTEM SERIAL NUMBER 1 0.00 0.00
CS-429-109 CORSAIR OBSIDIAN 750D FULL TOWER CASE 1 9.00 9.00
NL-202-104 BLUE 12" SINGLE METEOR LIGHT 1 15.00 15.00
CD-144-101 BLACK LG 24X DVDRW 1 0.00 0.00
HU-506-101 USB 3.0 INTERNAL HUB 4 PORT 1 25.00 25.00
MB-425-102 GIGABYTE GA-F2A88X-UP4 A88X CHIPSET USB 3.0 SATA 6GB/ 1 23.00 23.00
S FM2+
PS-119-109 APEVIA 900WATT POWER SUPPLY 1 25.00 25.00
VC-249-103 NVIDIA GTX 970 4GB GDDR5 PCI-E 1 322.00 322.00
BOX1 SYSTEM BOX AND FOAM 1 0.00 0.00
CABLE-PROWIRE PROFESSIONAL CABLE WIRING 1 19.00 19.00
SERVICE-301 M. FAN SERIES 1 0.00 0.00
MISC (PUSH-Pull) 1 0.00 0.00
MISC PUSH AND PULL 1 0.00 0.00
SERVICE-104 ANTI-VIBRATION FAN MOUNTS 1 9.00 9.00
MISC NO OPERATING SYSTEM 1 0.00 0.00
 
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That could definitely be part of the problem. Apevia units are very very poor quality(basically a generic pile in a shiny case) to the point of being a danger to the rest of the system. Not surprised at all that Cyberpower used such a poor quality PSU, they kinda have a reputation for that amongst other things.

When the system crashes does it crash out of the game and to the desktop or shutdown/restart?

Also in many games that 7850k is going to hold back a 1070 from performing to it's full potential(even the 970 was going to held back in some games), but that's not whats causing the crashes.
 
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Most common causes are thermal and power issues and if the GPU was only hitting 60°C then it's not the gpu overheating. Monitor the CPU temp when under load(prime 95 is a good stress test to use) and make sure it's not that if it's good then you may want to look at trying another PSU as yours is definitely suspect.
 
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