New Rig Advice: ~$1300 + Monitor

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Approximate Purchase Date: within 1-2 months. I'm buying parts as they go on sale using price trackers.

Budget Range: $1200-1400 (not including monitor)

System Usage: Gaming, Streaming, Surfing

Buying monitor?: Yes

Parts to Upgrade: All (new build)

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Amazon/Newegg

Location: Seattle, WA

Parts Preferences:
Overclocking: Maybe

SLI or Crossfire: No

Additional Comments: I like a quiet PC, don't care much about colors and bling. I mostly play Diablo 3, Overwatch, HotS, Dirty Bomb. Plan to play Destiny 2 on PC.

Reason for Upgrade: My current rig is not as fast as I'd like (AMD FX4370 with Radeon 290) and it's getting old. Rather than upgrade the video card, I'd rather jump into the Ryzen and M.2 storage game.

Seeking Advice:
I'm looking for the following Advice:


  • ■Do you see any compatibility issues or blaring caution items?
    ■Do you think it's worth jumping from the Ryzen 5 1600x to the Ryzen 7 1700?
    ■Do you think it's worth going from the gtx 1060 to the gtx 1070?

Thank you!
 
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A gtx1060 doesn't have the power to utilize a 1440p/144Hz monitor to any extent. Your best bet would be a gtx1080, the 1070 is at price premiums with crypto mining and can actually cost more than a decent 1080.
1060 - 1080p/60Hz
1070 - 1080p/144Hz or 1440p/60Hz
1080 - 1440p/144Hz or 4k
1080ti - 4k

Thats rough average minimums. There's always exceptions like minecraft you could use a 1060 on 1440p/144Hz or Witcher 3 a 1070 on 1080p/60Hz and still maintain above refresh values at default resolution. But mostly, that's not the norm.

The 1600/1600x are pretty much the same thing once you get either to @3.8GHz or so, which is where you want to be to really take advantage of the high speed ram.

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Ryzen 7 will probably be worth it for streaming, gtx 1070 for that 144hz.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($289.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI - B350 PC MATE ATX AM4 Motherboard ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($173.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($117.60 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($74.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Mini Video Card ($412.12 @ Amazon)
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($70.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1399.54
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-09-24 23:29 EDT-0400
 
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Thank you for your response. Can you go into more detail about these recommendations? Specifically, I'm wondering about the gains vs cost. The Ryzen 7 is probably about $50 more and the 1070 is probably about $160 more. I already have the motherboard and some other components, so it's less about going cheaper elsewhere and more about the incremental cost vs benefit trade off of those 2 components specifically.

What kind of streaming benefits do you think I'd garner over the Ryzen 5?
How do you think the 1070 will impact 144Hz gaming above the 1060 compared to the price increase?

Thank you
 
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1700 does not worth that more than 1600. $100 on the cooler while 1600 has decent cooler come with it? Not worth it. For SSD, 850 evo is already good enough. PSU use Seasonic, much better quality :)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($196.44 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - B350 GAMING PRO CARBON ATX AM4 Motherboard ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($138.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($98.94 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($45.69 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Mini Video Card ($539.89 @ OutletPC)
Case: NZXT - S340 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - EVO Edition 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($92.18 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Total: $1297.11
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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The monitor that I found above has some really great reviews and seems to be pretty well priced for GSync. It is a bit more than I wanted to spend though, so I would say $450 is about my max budget on monitor. Did you have some thoughts for other monitors?
 
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A gtx1060 doesn't have the power to utilize a 1440p/144Hz monitor to any extent. Your best bet would be a gtx1080, the 1070 is at price premiums with crypto mining and can actually cost more than a decent 1080.
1060 - 1080p/60Hz
1070 - 1080p/144Hz or 1440p/60Hz
1080 - 1440p/144Hz or 4k
1080ti - 4k

Thats rough average minimums. There's always exceptions like minecraft you could use a 1060 on 1440p/144Hz or Witcher 3 a 1070 on 1080p/60Hz and still maintain above refresh values at default resolution. But mostly, that's not the norm.

The 1600/1600x are pretty much the same thing once you get either to @3.8GHz or so, which is where you want to be to really take advantage of the high speed ram.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($196.44 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 Quad Lumi 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($59.95 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Motherboard: MSI - B350 PC MATE ATX AM4 Motherboard ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($173.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial - MX300 275GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($92.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($74.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Video Card ($519.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design - Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: BitFenix - Whisper M 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.59 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $1377.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-09-25 01:44 EDT-0400
 
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Here is the list:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($289.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B350M-A Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($77.49 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($138.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital - Blue 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($89.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB AMP Edition Video Card ($739.99 @ B&H)
Case: Corsair - 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($46.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($46.89 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Dell - S2716DGR 27.0" 2560x1440 144Hz Monitor ($449.99 @ Best Buy)
Total: $1880.21
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Add HDD in few months when you have $50 more to spend. That SSD can handle load for few months before it runs out of space.
 
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Here is the list:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-8700K ($330.00)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($34.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASUS PRIME Z370-P ($120.00)
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($133.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital - Blue 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($89.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3GB GAMING Video Card ($199.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair - 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($46.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($46.89 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Dell - S2716DGR 27.0" 2560x1440 144Hz Monitor ($449.99 @ Best Buy)
Total: $1452.62
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-09-25 03:52 EDT-0400

This is the second route you can take. Coffelake will be out in 2-3 weeks. As per the Cinebench benchmark i7-8700K at base clock is sitting just below R7 1700X by minimal difference and beats out R7 1700 in multicore test. With good headroom of overclocking it can perform equally good for streaming an perform even better in gaming.

Why did I choose GTX1060 3GB over GTX1080Ti or GTX1080. I opted for GTX1060 3GB because I wanted it to hold the slot for only few months while saving enough money to get top end GPU which will be GTX2080 on its release in few months. I saved you $400 add $100-150 more and sell this GTX1060 3GB for around 100$ and it will give you enough money to get GTX2080.
The reason I am pushing back the build to be able to add on a GTX2080 is because the Volta V100 is a huge jump over Pascal P100 nearly double the score in geekbench. Even if it is scaled down for consumer GPUs there will still be a big performance gain when going from Pascal to Volta.
 
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