Question about an upgrade

Jh4nTy · Sep 25, 2017

Hello guys! First of all, this is my current build:

• CPU: Intel Core i5 4690k @ 4.2GHz
• GPU: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1060 WindForce OC 6GB
• RAM: 16GB DDR3 1600MHz
• Motherboard: ASUS H81-Gamer
• OS: Windows 10 Pro
• HDD: 1TB
• SSD: TOSHIBA Q300 240GB

I'm thinking about upgrading CPU, RAM and MoBo. My MoBo can only support DDR3 ram and socket 1150 so that's why I gotta change so much.

My budget is around 500-600€. I've seen some options already. This is what I've gathered:

CPU: Intel Core i5 7600k
MoBo: ASUS Prime Z270-A
RAM: just some random 2x8gb DDR4

What do you make of this? Will I notice any significant boost in gaming? Is it worth the upgrade? You have better options than the hardware I mentioned?

Thank you very much!

guanyu210379 · Sep 25, 2017

Why you wanna upgrade from i5 4690k to i5 7600k? The performance increase is minimal but you have to spend quite a lot of money.
The only upgrade for similar price, which could make sense, is to get R5 1600 (more cores and add HT) or better. Even here, for pure gaming rig, I would say wait for the next generation.
Yes, i5 4690k is a bottleneck for some games but the bottleneck is still within tolerable range and only happens on very few games.

If you want really an upgrade, upgrading the GPU to GTX1070 or higher makes more sense to me.

13thmonkey · Sep 25, 2017

No you won't see a significant improvement, my suggestion is that only 2500's and similar would see a benefit.

Coffee lake will change that, as the extra cores are important.

If you want to spend try and find a 4790k to get the HT benefit.

Jh4nTy · Sep 25, 2017

I bought my 1060 just last Christmas so I'm not really thinking about upgrading it. I just wanted to get to the new generation of CPUs. I also like to stream sometimes and I thought I could get a performance boost with this upgrade.

13thmonkey · Sep 25, 2017

Jh4nTy :

'just wanting to get to the new generation' is a way to burn money to be frank, move when you have a performance issue that is hardware related.

You'll only get a boost with more cores, or HT, so an i5 to i5 move will do very little for you, the clock for clock improvement is small, so an i5-4xxx to i7-4xxx is nearly as good as i5-4xxx to i7-7xxx but much much cheaper as you don't need a new mobo.

SkyNetRising · Sep 25, 2017

Jh4nTy :

Then get i7 or Ryzen.
i7-4790k would be the smartest option (most cost effective).

Jh4nTy · Sep 25, 2017

Those i7 are hard to find here, either new or used.

13thmonkey · Sep 25, 2017

Jh4nTy :

Hard or impossible? Do you have a pressing need to upgrade? Just sit and spend the time trying to find one. Much better choice than anything else. Consider a platform change when that runs out of steam, i'd suggest 2+years with the extra cores.

Jh4nTy · Sep 25, 2017

What do you mean a platform change?

By the way, will I suffer major bottleneck if I switch for example to a GTX 1070 maintaining my current build?

13thmonkey · Sep 25, 2017

Jh4nTy :

I'd say no bottle neck, except in some games, BF1 for instance loves >4 cores, be they HT or real.

What you were proposing was a platform change, vs a simple upgrade, i.e. changing everything, RAM/CPU/MOBO, if you updated to an i7-4XXX then i'd suggest that you'll be ok for another 2+ years, then you consider the big move. This is all because RAM is ridiculously expensive right now, so eek it out for as long as possible.

Jh4nTy · Sep 25, 2017

What would be more significant tough? GPU update or CPU?

13thmonkey · Sep 25, 2017

GPU will allow faster frame rates at higher quality, CPU will increase minimum frame rates and reduce stuttering. As i always say, upgrade to solve your current problem, so what is your current problem?

Jh4nTy · Sep 25, 2017

My main issue would be the frame drops, alongside with some occasional stuttering that I have while streaming. I don't lose that much FPS really but since I have a 144hz monitor I can easily spot the difference comparing to when I play off stream. Besides that, my CPU is constantly between 80% and 100% usage when I stream.

13thmonkey · Sep 25, 2017

Jh4nTy :

In which case you need more cores, i7 on your current board is a good solution.

Jh4nTy · Sep 25, 2017

We're still talking about 4790k right? Doesn't it have the same amount of cores as my current one?

13thmonkey · Sep 25, 2017

Jh4nTy :

But it has hyperthreading.

Jh4nTy · Sep 25, 2017

Will my MoBo be able to support that feature?

13thmonkey · Sep 25, 2017

Jh4nTy :

Yes, any mobo for that socket will be able to use it.

Jh4nTy · Sep 25, 2017

I found one in my country brand new for 362,50€. What do you think of that price?

13thmonkey · Sep 25, 2017

How does that compare to a r5 1600 build with new Memory? Is imagine it's about the same with similar performance. Plus the hassle of reinstalling windows.

Jh4nTy · Sep 25, 2017

215€ average for the CPU plus like 140€ for memory so yeah, pretty much the same. That and I don't really want AMD.

13thmonkey · Sep 25, 2017

plus the mobo,

Jh4nTy · Sep 25, 2017

Exactly

13thmonkey · Sep 25, 2017

Up to quad cores being used the intel is faster:

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-4790K-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-1600/2384vs3919

The question is how much uses more than quad and can't make use of the HT, the answer right now is not a lot, in 2 years it might be 'something'

guanyu210379 · Sep 26, 2017

Jh4nTy :

Why? Being a fanboy only brings you stupid decisions.
For now, nothing can beat R5 1600, 1600x, R7 1700 and 1700x bang for bucks value.
Things could change after coffeelake in a few weeks/months tho'.
I have been switching back and fort between AMD and Intel for over 20 years to get always the best bang for buck for that particular time.
Sometimes is AMD better, sometimes Intel is better.

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