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Cetek16

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My pc (it has 2 months beside graphic card which has 1 year):

ASUS PRIME B350M-A
EVGA Geforce GTX 970 SSC ACX 2.0+
EVGA Supernova 550 G2
Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 2x8GB
SSD Goodram Iridium PRO 240 GB
HDD Toshiba 1TB
Ryzen 5 1600

So i have random (but rare) fps drops, game goes 10-20 from 60 for 2-5 seconds, then go back to normal. It seems that i have it in all games that requires some pc power.

Internet says that it can be virus fault (but i have checked it and everything is fine) or cpu overheat. I can't check temperatures because fps drop is short, and after alt-tab game stops rendering so checking temperature via hwmonitor is not reliable source. For now i have installed AMD Chipset drivers. I have never installed newer BIOS than facture version.

And i have a few things to add:
-cpu temperature rises to 40 C, fan goes faster and then it goes to 31 C. And over and over again, but sometimes stops at 32-33 C. It may be normal since it has fan curve set in BIOS.
- thermal paste was very thick and hard to apply, and it's mixed with factory cpu thermal paste

So it can be overheating fault, but i believe it will be too good and too easy.
 
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It's not a CPU overheating issue. Your way under the max temp it would throttle at, and CPU temperature fluctuations are normal.

Not sure what it is... still thinking..

Can you try to replicate it by putting a benchmark like Unigine HEAVEN into a constant LOOP? (not counting the FPS drops when scenes change)
 
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1) Try running Prime95 while also monitoring Task Manager -> CPU Performance (show all TWELVE THREADS). P95 is more demanding but I want to see if you can maintain at least 3.6GHz or so (not sure of exact turbo values) while under heavy load.

Again, a worst-case scenario but it rules out any CPU throttling issues.

2) Make sure your memory sticks are setup in the proper slots (not sure if you can screw it up or not).. see motherboard MANUAL

3) run MEMTEST86 to make sure no memory issues (more likely to cause errors though, not FPS drops) www.memtest86.com run full pass

4) Did you mean Asus B350M-A ??
Either way, I'd update the BIOS to the latest as they contain stability fixes.
 
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I misunderstood.. there are many programs, but you can use EVGA Precision OC, and then there is an "OSD" (On Screen Display) section.

It's a bit confusing, but you select "OSD Settings"-> "GPU1" for all the things you want on the screen

For example, select "CPU temperature" then select "GPU1" (and also choose maybe "F4" to toggle the OSD on and off when playing a game)

I'd choose to monitor:
a) CPU temperature
b) GPU usage, and
c) GPU clock

Again though, if Prime95 won't temperature throttle the CPU (which is a very CPU stressful program) a game definitely will not.
 
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For now nothing happens, 102% of maximum frequency, 102% cpu usage, stable 61 celsius degrees.
Edit 1
http://wrzuc.se/images/59c9497c31b63.png
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67 degrees, 105%
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CPU slows for a second, temperature goes to 64, 104% of maximum frequency.
Edit 4
Temperature 63, frequency 102%.
Edit 5
Again, temperature rises to 67 celsius, 105% of frequency, and then cpu slows for a second and everything is going down. And everything starts again. HWMonitor shows stable 3393 MHZ. I can check if it launches turbo in game.

EVGA Precision XOC has only GPU things, CPU usage etc. is not on the list.

Edit

I haven't noticed anything (but it means nothing, these framerate drops are quite rare) after installing amd chipset drivers, the only new addition is audio crackling/popping. I'm starting to think that becoming console peasant is better.
 
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EVGA Precision OC v6.1.16:

Among other things it does have CPU TEMPERATURE listed next to "Select GPU Statistic"

I'm not sure what else to suggest though. If you now added audio issues I would UNINSTALL those drivers.

OTHER:
If you can obtain a SPARE DRIVE it might be handy to do a CLEAN INSTALL of W10 to it without messing with your current setup. for example:

1) insert 8GB or larger USB stick
2) download and run MS media creation tool https://www.microsoft.com/en-ca/software-download/windows10
3) after finished, run "setup.exe" to let it upgrade itself, to itself (In-Place Upgrade... may or may not fix any issues)

no luck?
4) shut down and attach spare drive, and UNHOOK the others to avoid accidental file deletion
5) clean install W10 (do NOT enter a key or login)
6) install ONLY the drivers you absolutely need, possibly only the NVidia graphics drivers (audio or other drivers may be of benefit, but if not NEEDED then don't install them for the purpose of this test... want to have MINIMUM software install to find out where problem starts)

7) Install a game you know has issues (i.e. install STEAM and login... then restore a game BACKUP from folder)

*BEFORE you do the clean W10 install, take a game and make a BACKUP to another USB stick, or a folder on the same HDD so we can RESTORE it for test purposes on the new Steam install.


**IF games still have the FPS drop issue then may be a HARDWARE issue causing periodic freezing. no sure why. If it is WORKING now then it's a SOFTWARE issue (or the issue is caused by the HDD or SSD that Windows was installed on originally)
 
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I don't have spare pendrive that will let me install windows 10 and game on it. And it can be bios problem too, so it's not last thing i can do.

First tell me what should i choose here http://wrzuc.se/images/59cbdf377c09e.png and how to install new bios. I mean pendrive or through windows, or through online download in bios? If through pendrive, it should be packed, in folder, or just everything on pendrive? (no folder, no rar etc).

AMD chipset drivers have above 1 GB on my MOBO site, on official site 170 mb. What should i download?
 
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