pc underperforming like crazy

agreedbog

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Hi guys,

i asked this question on several forums and never got an answer so here we go again.

as the title says my pc is underperforming and it is messing with my head...

for example:
minecraft (with and without optifine)
cpu usage: 20% max (no cores maxed)
gpu usage: 13%
fps: 40 (no vsync or limits not in windows not in game not in control, and this goes for all of the games)

project cars:
cpu: 54 (no cores max)
gpu: 30/40%
fps: 40/60

and this goes for a lot of games but some games work fine
example:

CoD BO3:
gpu: 75%
cpu: 90/99%
fps 150/200

wildlands the same

now before i get the question temps or clocks...

temps:
gpu perfect
cpu perfect

clocks are good no problem with that

and the driver thingy

meanwhile windows has been reinstalled about 4 times even with a fresh ssd so no remaining old drivers

specs:
i7-4770
msi h97 gaming 3 mb

msi gtx 1080 gaming x

16gb ddr3 1600 mhz ram

samsung 750 evo 250 gb

2tb old mech hdd (to be replaced not the problem)

corsair mx750 80+ gold 750 watt psu


i really want to have a solution for this even if somebody know for sure and can explain in detail why. that my cpu is a bottleneck i am willing to replace it but not if its an answer "it is just the problem"

thanks for the help!

 

metathias

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Have you overclocked at all? And have you double checked your heatsink fan setup to make sure it has good cpu adhesion. Did you remember to add thermal paste or did the heatsink come already with a pad of some sort? Sometimes your CPU can self throttle if its temperatures rise to quickly. And you might not notice this in the temperature because the CPU is literally ramping it clockrate up so fast that its throttling behavior falls in between temperature sensors scan rate.. I've seen this scenario personally before.
 

trampus123

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this is a non K CPU and a H97 MB no OC on this
 

agreedbog

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Update done, tested GTA V and project cars and it helped a bit.
gta v has gone from 40/50 to 70/100 fps wich is perfect but project cars barely comes above 60.
mind you this 1080p not 1440p not 4k just HD gaming...

 

agreedbog

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Temps:

cpu:

idle: 30/35 C
full load: 60/65 C

gpu:

idle 40/45 c mind you msi's zero frozer (or how its called) is on so 0 rpm at idle
full load: 60/65 and with the very beefy oc of 150 core and 650 memory it tops at 75 with the standard curve.

and just so you know this is also the underperforming situation
 

trampus123

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I think Project cars is frame cap at 60 is it not
 

agreedbog

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That could be yeah, maybe that is why gpu usage was only around 55%? Anyway will test some more tomorrow and i will post the results i will do some benchmarks aswell so you guys can see if it is performing like it should
 


Actual clocks? not set clocks, actual.
 

agreedbog

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The clocks are stable at 1924 mhz (little bit less turbo, if i change the fan curve its stable at 1974mhz)
 

agreedbog

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The test results:

GTA V:
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PROJECT CARS:
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Dont mind the spike, it was a loading screen, before that the avg fps was around 65

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Superposition benchmark:

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Valley:

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Heaven:
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dont mind the OS on the tests it messed up. actual OS win 10 64 bit latest version