Recommendtaion and toughts about motherboard, PSU, RAM and case for Ryzen 5 1600 and GTX 1060?

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I'm thinking about getting a pc upgrade, almost a new pc basically, and I'd like some recommendations, toughts about some things from you.

Firstly, here's my current whishlist:
Case: Kolink Punisher
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600
MB: Asrock X370 Killer - > Recommendations: MSI B350M MORTAR (Thank you, looks promising and has a lot better price!) Gigabyte Gmaing 3 (Thanks! I'll think about it, but it is more expensive than the Mortar)
RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws V 2x4GB OR 2x8GB DDR4 2133MHz F4-2133C15D
SSD: Adata 240Gb SP580 SATA III
GPU: Gigabyte GTX1060 3GB

The 1060 will be a later buy, few months, half a year, idk when I'll have the money for it but I'm definitely looking forward to change my GTX 660 OC for it. The current PSU (Chieftec GPA 600-s) doesn't have pins for video cards, and has been powering my build for 2 years.
I'm mostly gonna play games and do modelling/rendering in 3D. Colors of the components doesn't matter, noone will look into the case under the desk and my feet (only me sometimes :D )

And here's my first question: Can you recommend any new PSU, maybe a possible smaller for power saving, or it's fine to stick with this?

Secondly, any other/better motherboards for the ryzen? Maybe a cheaper one? Overclocking is not a must have, I've never done that and don't know how to do it, but I like the option if I ever want to try it out. I have one criteria tho, it needs to have an S/PDIF optical audio plug, I'm using my sound system via that.

Third question, What do you think about RAM? is 8GB enough or should I get the 16GB pack? I'm really thinking about it, since the 16 costs almost twice as much as the 8 gig, and I don't think it has that huge impact on performance.

And lastly, toughts about the case? I love the design, and it's bigger than my current one except in length, it's about 4cm smaller. How's the cooling and airflow, is it fine for a build like this?

Thank you for your time, recommendations and toughts in advance!

Have a great day!
 
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Daragos

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Thanks! Price looks decent, altough it misses a tiny detail:
I have one criteria tho, it needs to have an S/PDIF optical audio plug, I'm using my sound system via that.
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Any toughts about the MORTAR version of B350M? It has the plug, and just a tiny bit more expensive. Still a lot cheaper than the Asrock, so thank you! :)
 
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1. Idk what PSU to recommend, can you maybe give me a budget?
2. There a lots of good B350 motherboards out there. Gigabyte B350 Gaming 3, MSI B350 Tomahawk are the most popular ones for a good reason
3. Unless you're running into bottlenecks currently with 8GB of RAM, that'll do for the next few years.
4. That case looks great for the price but there's no basement, working in it just looks like its going to be a pain, and the build quality isn't the best. Here's a cheap Phanteks case. It's from a well known company, all-metal construction, working in it is ezpz, but it is more minimalistic which I'm not sure if you'll like. The airflow will be pretty good. Here's a review of the case from Hardware Canucks, an expert case reviewer.
[video="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqHHt0DGNYU"][/video]
 
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Thank you for all the toughts and recommendations!
1. I'm willing to pay about 40-50 USD, maybe even 60 (but I don't think that's necessary) for the PSU now that I have cheaper motherboard recommendations.

2. I'm gonna think about the Gigabyte Gaming 3, but I don't see much of a difference between that and the B350M Mortar that I need. Both have an S/PDIF, 3 USB slots, 1 PCI-E x16 3.0, 2 SATA, and 2133 MHz RAM compatibility. The only thing that may be better with the Gigabyte is the cooling, since the video card and the CPU slots are further away.

3.I don't really know the answer for that, since I have 16 GB DDR3 right now. There wasn't this huge price difference back then between 8 (45 USD) and 16 (60 USD) GB, so I bought 16.

4. Basement is for cable management, right? I don't have it right now, and I don't know if I need it. Is there any benefits, other than looking better? Other than that, the Phanteks looks great, but I can't buy it in my country. None of the shops have a P300, only a P400, which is quite a bit more expensive, real close to double the price of the Kolink,and it comes with 2 fans vs the kolink's 3. But I may end up with the Phanteks after all, I'll think about it! :D

Thanks again for everything! Have a great day! :)
 
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1. Take a look here: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817438014&ignorebbr=1&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker,%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=
It's very well built (Won't explode in your face), fan is quiet, decently efficient. One downside is it's non modular meaning the cables will be messy. Ouch.
2. I guess it's your choice, but I'd recommend the MSI B350 Tomahawk instead. It's pretty much the same thing but it looks better, especially since you're most likely going with an ATX case, so you'll want a larger motherboard.
3. I would honestly prefer a GTX 1060 6GB + 8GB over GTX 1060 3GB + 16GB. If you can afford 16GB then go for it. But if you're deciding between a good graphics card or 16GB, get a GTX 1060 6GB. That card is worth every penny.
4. The only differences between the Kolink and the Phanteks are cable management and looks. That might not seem like a lot but I promise choosing your case is the night and day difference between you ripping out your hair when building the PC vs a smooth journey and that matters a lot. Yes the basement is for cable management. See, you only need CERTAIN cables the above power supply gives you. The extra cables you can just stuff out of sight in the basement. Not only that it improves airflow, so the cables aren't in the way of your components. Another case with a similar price is the NZXT S340 (NOT Elite). It's got the same features as the P300 except it doesn't have the tempered glass. But regardless it's a good case, easy to build in, and is more available in other countries.
 
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Hey there! Thanks again for the infos! I really, really appreciate this discussion as I'm slowly figuring out/finding new parts step by step what I wanna buy, so thank you for this! :D

1. Looks great, altough I too, have been looking for some PSU-s meanwhile, and I found this little guy that looks promising, with modular cables. Be quiet! Pure Power 10 CM 400W BN276, or the 500W version. I know it's a bit more than the budget I said earlier, but I've realised that I experienced poor quality PSU before, so I'm willing to pay a little bit more for the quality, like this one. According to be quiet's consumption calculator, I will be pretty fine with the 400W guy.

2. Staying with ATX instead of micro, I think I'll go with the Gigabyte Gaming 3, since that's the cheapest one which has the optical audio I need. Thanks, but the Tomahawk you suggest doesn't have optical S/PDIF.

3. First thing I need right now is a better CPU, not GPU, that's why the graphics card will be a later buy, way after I have everything else as I mentioned in the ask. For now, I'll keep my GTX 660 2GB Windforce OC 192bit until I have money for the big gun. Thank you for the recommendation tho, I'll definietly go with a 6 GB version. I have a lot of time to think about this. :) I've decided on the RAM on the other hand. I checked my current usage before starting up any games, and it's about 3-5 GB as I usually like to multitask. Based on this, it'll definitely be 16 GB (my poor wallet :/ ).

4. I've seen and experienced some uncomfortable cases which were pretty old ones. I know what you mean, but nowadays, most cases are quite comfortable compared to those. :) Also, I have some cable ties, I always keep and put them away for later use, so I can make cable management happen with those nice and fancy, even if there's no integrated space for that kinda stuff in the case itself.
Neat, that case looks pretty simple styled, altough I like a bit more, I don't know, design maybe? (I can't really describe it), not as complicated and bumpy as a Zalman Z11, but somwhere in the middle, like the Kolink I'm still in love with. However, I did found a different Kolink case which has basement, yay! It's the Kolink Vault, looks great, it's pretty big and has a lot of space inside, 3 fans preinstalled, plus the basement too.
 
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1. How much is that? Looks pretty decent but I can't see the price because it's not available in the US :(
2. Fantastic choice. One of the best B350 motherboards out there
3. The 1600 will do you fine for years to come and pairing it with 16GB of RAM should give you very nice performance. Though try to see if you can get by with 8GB for now, because the prices are CRAZY as of now. Maybe upgrade to 16GB when prices are a bit lower? Also can you link which pack you're going to get? Ryzen can be a bit picky when it comes to RAM compatibility so I don't want you to run into any troubles.
4. Is this the right one? https://www.amazon.co.uk/Kolink-Vault-Midi-Tower-Black-Blue/dp/B01H0IUY6O
If it is, looks great, shouldn't be a pain to build in and has decent build quality for the price.
And no need to thank me, I'm just here to help! It's what I love to do!
 
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1 The 400W one is a fine 73 usd, 500W is a little bit too much I think, 91 usd. Depending on how much does the CPU and GPU watt usage goes up under load vs idle, the 400W should give me about a 100-150W leftover (with good efficiency) , since this calculation is most probably idle consumption. The normal, not modular 500W costs 79 usd, so if it turns out that I need that extra 100 Watts, that should be a good choice too.

2.Great, thanks! :)

3. Oh yeah, I heard about RAM problems. Thank you! :D I know about these ridicoulous prizes, and I don't understand them. :/ I'm thinking about this Dual Channel kit G.Skill Ripjaws 2x8GB 2133MHz DDR4 for 171 usd, this is the cheapest option sadly. Buying a single 8Gig now and later another will still be more expensive than this, since the cheapest is the G.Skill, and it's single 8Gig is 96 usd. Maybe if there will be a minimum 10% discount on RAM near christmas, but that probably will include the dual kit too, so yeah. :D (note, I probably will order the pc near christmas, or could be after that, depends on when my wallett will not die because of this upgrade)

4. Yes, yes, that's the one. It is a bit bigger than the current one, and a lot bigger inside, so I'm pretty sure that I could fit in and dance in there while I'm placing in the components. :)

5. Also, let's start to talk about the 1060 6GB. I know I said that it will be a later buy, but I don't really want to open a new topic just for that since we're already here and talking about a lot of parts, so I'll just save the discussed one for later when I'll have the money for it and I'll know what I'm aiming to buy. :) I've been eyeballing the Gainward GTX 1060 6GB GDDR5 Phoenix (365 usd) and it's "GS" version (398 usd). I don't really know if that small difference is worth that extra 30 bucks. What do you think? Can you recommend any other 1060, maybe a little cheaper one, or is this a good one?

[strike]Thanks again! :p[/strike]
 
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So I guess number 2 and 4 are answered
1. Holy balls! $73!? That's more than this PSU (at least where I'm from):
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817438095&ignorebbr=1&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker,%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=
How much is that PSU, because that thing is muuuucccchhhh better than that other one you mentioned. I'm just worried components are more expensive in your country than in mine.
Here are the few other ones, buy whichever one is the cheapest at the time of purchase, since there's really not difference.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817438095&ignorebbr=1&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker,%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA2F84BD0571&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker,%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817438053&ignorebbr=1&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker,%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=
3. That RAM kit looks fine and since it's so dang expensive :( then yeah I'd say try to get a discount for a 16GB kit if you can
5. I've bought 3 graphics cards I have yet to buy one from Gainward, so you're on your own unfortunately if you're trying to decide between those. However, when it comes to GTX 1060's, you're not going to find ANY DIFFERENCE in any card. So just buy whichever one is cheapest. This is the one I always recommend and I bought it too. It's nothing fancy but it's quiet and stays cool even with one fan.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487261
If you're really worried about aesthetics then go with whichever one you like the most, but keep in mind the price, looking at a 398 USD price tag on that GS card you can actually afford even a GTX 1070 in my country. Plus, who doesn't like to save money? I mean seriously.
And as a side note which country do you live in? That way I can make sure my recommendations are precise since it seems like pricing and availability is vastly different between my and your country.
Also do you want a more fluid means of communicating? Because this is not super ideal. Do you use Hangouts? iMessage? Facebook? Twitter? Instagram? Or do you just want to communicate like this?
 
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