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Sojubrewmaster

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Hello Sirs,

I just have a question and I understand that it is entirely theoretical in nature, cause this product hasn't been released yet. But I currently have a 4790k CPU and was wondering if it will bottleneck?

Having asked that after how many generations does it usually bottleneck? is there a set standard? I would love to upgrade the entire system but life has other priorities.
 
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there's no set nature for the bottleneck, it always happens, all the time, we just can't see it sometimes, it depends on the situation really, many things can affect / cause the bottleneck
that's why we tend to recommend people to build as balanced as possible, in order to minimize the bottleneck
even so, some games might demand more performance from one part that might cause that part to turn into a bottleneck
(*insert part here* intensive games)
this is pretty much the general bottleneck that happens around us, u can always minimize them by going with the proper settings:
CPU bottleneck: usually by increasing the settings, to shift some burden to the GPU instead of CPU
GPU bottleneck: lower the settings, this one is pretty obvious...
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No there is no standard for cpu bottlenecking lol. It will depend entirely on the game, the settings you use in said game, the resolution, monitor refresh rate, etc. You could get a 4790k to bottleneck a current gpu in the right circumstances. So I do not know if a 4790k will bottleneck a future gpu in future games. Games will be perfectly playable I can assure that, but there are way too many variables for me to give you any kind of good answer to this. If you want post your resolution, refresh rate, and the games you like to play, then maybe I can make a guess.
 
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there's no set nature for the bottleneck, it always happens, all the time, we just can't see it sometimes, it depends on the situation really, many things can affect / cause the bottleneck
that's why we tend to recommend people to build as balanced as possible, in order to minimize the bottleneck
even so, some games might demand more performance from one part that might cause that part to turn into a bottleneck
(*insert part here* intensive games)
this is pretty much the general bottleneck that happens around us, u can always minimize them by going with the proper settings:
CPU bottleneck: usually by increasing the settings, to shift some burden to the GPU instead of CPU
GPU bottleneck: lower the settings, this one is pretty obvious

Edit: fixed some minor grammar mistakes
 
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If I had a 4790k (I have 4770k) that overclocked as strong as mine (+500 all the time and I can increase it to +1100 if I wanted to) I'd probably not bother with upgrading that CPU for like 10 years after it's release. The 4790k is incredibly good and if you can OC it, it should even score better than the new ones.
 
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constantine_99

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it depends really, the 4 core trend already start to shift, with newer games able to utilize more cores, soon the i7 won't be enough, especially if he's thinking of streaming / multitasking too....

but yes, if u compare it to kabylake, the performance difference aren't worth upgrading for :) however, coffelake already made a difference with their better OC capability and extra core counts
 
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Well with the new ShadowPlay working well, I can stream while gaming at 4K Ultra to 1080p and I don't really have any issues with my old i7 4770k. It feels more like a fake marketing scheme on behalf of AMD that's trying to steal market shares from Intel on the gamer department. But that's just my case, I take really good care of my system so it works at 100% potential.

And with 4790k going up to 5Ghz speed, it will always run better in games, than a 16 core 3Ghz CPU that costs 3 times the original price. That's if his CPU can OC also, otherwise 4Ghz will be outdated soon.
 
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never said it wouldn't run with the old one, but it'll run better with the more core, that's why intel had to release the coffelake as soon as possible, coz the extra cores does had it's own merits

u're right that faster CPU would always be better for gaming, but that's because most of the games right now rarely use above 4 core [which i think explains why intel just sat around happily with the 4 cores in the mainstream market for the last 7 generation....], intel also does had IPC, which explains why it can achieve higher fps in most games [if not all], but more cores does make the game more stable, allow better multitasking [like gaming and streaming and such]

he don't need to upgrade [never said he had to] anytime soon, his 4790k can still last another few years, but if he wanted to upgrade now, the performance difference is already showing up there...

PS:
even if it's only a fake marketing, AMD sure does fool a lot of reviewer and intel themselves there, since many people praise that Ryzen lineup, a lot of reviewers does give their thumbs up for this new CPU[albeit most of the time they praise it for better multitasking system rather than a full-gaming system], and intel had to release coffelake sooner in order to retake the market...


 
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Yea well a girl that was streaming with OBS had latency issues and the stream would get stuck and she has a 1700, presumably she didn't have this issue before. As long as your CPU works well, tests and benchmarks don't compare to what you actually need and want :) hell I've seen benchmarks with 3rd generation i5 having the same performance as a 7700k. And the 8700k doesn't seem all that impressive yet, but then again we should assume it's a rushed version and treat it as AMD releases (needs a few months to stabilize and get updates)
 
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yup, coffelake's is just the in between for the upcoming icelake imo, while Ryzen also gonna had their Zen+ next year too, things should get interesting as time goes.
i just hope i can afford any one of them before the new gen comes up again :(
 
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