Is my RAM gonna work with Asus Strix B350-F?

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The RAM is G.skill ripjaws F4-3200C16D-16GVKB the last two letters just indicating color. This 16GB 3200MHz kit is not listed in Asus' QVL but the 8GB kit is. Can I assume that my RAM will work as well? Also in the list under SPD/DOCP it says N/A. Don't know what that means...

Any help is appreciated. Can't wait to put board, RAM and 1600x together!
 
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I can't really advise you there. I've not tried the MSI B350's, but have heard good reviews of them. Similarly for the Asus B350 Prime Plus, Strix. I personally have a bit of an affinity with Asus, and have always rated their products. Really it's a matter of personal choice.

Regarding the over riding compatibility question, whether or not the ram is on the QVL means it's been tested to work with that specific mobo. Even though modules are on the QVL, they may still not work as you want. For both mobo's, and all B350 right now, it's the bios updates that will help most with compatibility. The QVL is a guide.

For me personally, I like to make the decision on hardware purchases based on a a few variables:
1. Cost
2. Aesthetics
3...
Don't assume anything with the Ryzen/Ram compatibility issues. Chances are you will get them to work. You most likely will have to set timings and voltage manually. Sometimes that doesn't work, sometimes the XMP profile doesn't work. There are many posts on Tom's right now asking the same questions, wondering why their ram won't work at it's rated speed.

Hopefully once you manually input the timings etc, they will work well for you.
 

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Man that sucks. I was gonna get a MSI B350 PC MATE and I'm pretty sure that their site said my RAM would work. Now the guys over at Linus tech tips forum basically said anything other than Asus is shit for Ryzen and that on top of that the MSI had shitty components. That's why I got the Strix. The cheaper B350 board from Asus is red and doesn't match my blue lighting and GPU.
 


I'm not sure about how accurate the statement from Linus Tech forums would be. I think from seeing alot of the same posts, the ram issues are applicable to a lot of board manufacturers. I've an Asus B350 Plus, and although I have basic DIMMS, ive not had issues with my ram. I feel lucky considering how others have issues. My ram is just straight forward 2400mhz, 1.2v standard stuff.

edit: this article on Anand was a good read, and explains some more of the issues people are having, and also what to expect from using standard DIMMS and the benefits (in some cases not much) of using faster OC'ed DIMMS.

https://www.anandtech.com/show/11857/memory-scaling-on-ryzen-7-with-team-groups-night-hawk-rgb
 

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When I googled there seem to be a lot of people being happy about the Strix board and frequent BIOS updates. In fact my RAM might work as advertised and they haven't updated the list yet. I mean it's just us enthusiasts who check the list anyways. Average Joe might buy OC RAM and forget to apply the XMP profile...

Well in my case 3200 was 15 bucks more than 2400. I thought that was okay given that Ryzen seems to like fast RAM.

I'll know more tomorrow or Saturday...
 
Well bios updates really are playing a part with Ryzen, as the stablility issue get worked out. Have you updated to the latest Agesa Bios, I think its 1.0.0.6b. Amd hasn't given much away about it, and some suspect it's just updated CPU microcode, and not further stability improvements for ram. But given the platform is still relatively fresh, having the latest bios will help.
 

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No not yet but the components should arrive today and tomorrow. I'll update the BIOS first thing and see if I can get the RAM to work before even installing Windows. Also there's a power plan profile available specifically for Ryzen I heard...
 


yeah, the performance plan fixes a few minor issues. You can just select the 'high performance' option in power plans, and it will do the same thing. The balanced power plan seems to be the one causing an issues, where the CPU downclocks.
 

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We'll both boards are on the way to me and I'm gonna return one. Maybe I should keep the MSI one. I'm not sure I'll benefit from the Rog Strix in any way as I won't OC. Maybe it's got better components. I dunno...
 
I can't really advise you there. I've not tried the MSI B350's, but have heard good reviews of them. Similarly for the Asus B350 Prime Plus, Strix. I personally have a bit of an affinity with Asus, and have always rated their products. Really it's a matter of personal choice.

Regarding the over riding compatibility question, whether or not the ram is on the QVL means it's been tested to work with that specific mobo. Even though modules are on the QVL, they may still not work as you want. For both mobo's, and all B350 right now, it's the bios updates that will help most with compatibility. The QVL is a guide.

For me personally, I like to make the decision on hardware purchases based on a a few variables:
1. Cost
2. Aesthetics
3. Features

And not necessarily in that order :) after that, all the mobo's perform roughly the same as each other.

So my advice would be to choose the one that looks the best (or fits in with your PC design), has the best features (RGB, Dual GPU etc) and that it fits in your budget.

Given your getting both - maybe try them, and see which one YOU like the most. Most of us here don't get the opportunity to pick between the two (we just review and make a decision that way). You have the benefit of trying out both. :) I like that option, just from the point of being able to :)

Edit: BTW, OC the 1600x on those mobo's is quiet easy. PM if you think you might wanna go that route, and I can give you some quick settings for a simple moderate OC :)

 
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I'm gonna go with the Strix since I just found a redditor with the board and the exact same RAM kit which he had stable at 3200 without messing around.

My problem with OCing is that I'm afraid it'll use much more power and get hotter for no big gain in performance. Correct me here. A moderate OC I'd be interested in.

Also I have no idea what the RGB lighting does. I have blue LED case fan and my GPU also has blue LEDs.
 
Then that a good choice based on your needs.

OC'ing seems daunting at first. But with some easily accessed info online, you will find a guide for your exact proc and mobo. The benefits from overclocking can seem minimal, but in some scenarios offer a lot of performance increases. OC ram will give you an increase in bandwitdh, faster memory access etc. OC the cpu can give increases in speed for doing the tasks that CPU's do.

In some cases, if your rendering for example having a strong OC may reduce the rendering time by seconds or minutes. If your doing that kind of thing for a living then shaving off minutes can mean more money.

In the gaming world, OC'ing increases FPS and can make something that didn't run smoothly run much better. It's a subjective thing. Really though, if your set up gives you the results you want, then whats the point in OC'ing. I do it for fun, to see how it works, how much I can push my hardware, how much extra performance I can eek from my system. But is it needed? Prob not if I'm being honest. If i'm playing a game at stock settings and getting 100 fps, does having an OC that gives me 115 fps make that much of a difference. To me it does, but to the majority of average users they can't see the difference or the benefits.

RGB lighting is the LED's on the mobo. Nowadays, they come on the ram DIMMS, the mobo, the CPU cooler too. It's just fancy bells an whistles.

EDIT: well PM me when your all set up, and have your software installed and settled as you like, and then I can give you some basic settings to try. If you don't like the outcome, you can simply revert to stock, with a few quick changes. Happy to help :)
 

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It'd be awesome if you could control aura from bios. That's what I assumed TBH. But the fact that you need to install software for it bothers me. I've found many people complaining about that. I've always tried to keep my PC bloat free ...
 


the software is actually very unobtrusive. It works quite well too. For about all of 5 mins, I was fascinated with how the colours changed, and what colours it can display. Now I don't even look at it! :)
 

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Told you that the BIOS Updates are fixing RAM issues and also AMD are the ones with consistent updates.