Which build will be faster and better for gaming and VR?

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Barty1884

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Really depends on the title.

Generally, the Intel build *would've* won out due to the higher IPC of KabyLake vs Ryzen, but with driver updates, developer adoption of Ryzen, the gap has closed significantly, with an OC'd Ryzen CPU actually outperforming in some titles/resolution(s) that can leverage the additional cores/threads vs the i5.

The "gap" opens up again somewhat when paired with really strong GPUs (like 1080TIs or Titans). For a "normal" build using something liek a 1060 or 1070, performance is very similar in most cases, with the added cores/threads being beneficial in some titles.

From a longevity standpoint, I'd expect the 6 core/ 12thread Ryzen to be viable for longer, but that's simply guesswork at this stage.
 

maxvm2013

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ok so if I don't OC it will it be a significant loss of performance compared to the 7600k?
 


Not exactly depending on your game, more and more games are well-optimized to use more cores. Although Ryzen is lagging on single core, the extra 2 cores can make a huge difference :) If you want to stick to I5-7600k, that is fine. Just wait after coffee lake release to get some discount :)
 
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Barty1884

Retired Moderator
Again, it will depend on the titles specifically.

Where I've seen issues at stock Ryzen speeds (in Gaming) is not on the "average" FPS etc, but on the lower end. Minimums etc.
With lower minimum frames, certain games can appear to 'stutter' a bit etc.
 

QwerkyPengwen

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That's not a valid question in my opinion for this reason: you buy an overclockable chip but don't overclock. Why would you waste that kind of money if you arent going to take advantage of what you are paying extra for?

If you aren't going to overclock then get a i7-7600 non k
 


Agreed, on CPU intensive and not optimized for multi core game, such as PUBG, I5-7600k will perform better :)
 


All Ryzen chips are OCable, do you mean anyone who doesn't want OCing shouldn't buy Ryzen? Nope, it is personal choice :)
 

Barty1884

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Based on that logic, AMD would have an even lesser market share though, considering all their chips are unlocked? While I don't disagree necessarily, not everyone is comfortable overclocking and, stock vs stock, the i5 (any modern i5) would win out more often than not.

For the price though, even at stock speeds, Ryzen still represents a solid value for money........ but you really should consider OCing to get the 'most' out of it.
 

Barty1884

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But it IS a valid question, and a valid concern for a lot of users.
AMD don't offer a "locked" CPU, just budget non-OCing chipsets.

Intel's K chips offer more than just OCing potential, as they have a higher base/boost clock vs their non-K counterparts..... Typically, with games benefitting from stronger/faster single-core performance, opting for a K CPU with no intention of overclocking isn't always a "bad" idea, depending on the cost.