Wolfenstein The New Order frame rate issues

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I just bought Wolfenstein The New Order and The Old Blood on Steam. I expected a nice gameplay experience and a smooth 60 FPS. Instead all I got for money was a subpar experience. The game is good, but the performance is not.

I have an MSI R9 390. I heard AMD GPU's had issues with the game but most of the people complaining were RX 400 series users. I thought I would have better luck but no I haven't. Some times the game will run at 60 frames and then it will drop down to 30. I don't think it has gone below 30. It's an FPS so a smooth frame rate is important. Especially a smooth 60 FPS or more.

So far I have tried everything I have found online to try and fix this issue. I disabled V sync and used MSI after burner to limit the frame rate to 60. I got screen tearing. Which is just as annoying as the frame rate taking a nose dive to 30 fps. I disabled V sync and switched to full screen windowed mode and that didn't work. I lowered all the graphics settings as low as they will go and nothing worked.

It's a shame what has happened to PC gaming. Wolfenstein was originally a PC game. The game pretty much runs like garbage. I am thinking about getting a refund. I can't for The New Order cause Steam requires that you have played the game for less than 2 hours. I haven't even tried playing The Old Blood. So I can still get a refund on that I believe.

If anyone has any clue as to how I can fix this issue any help would be appreciated.

 
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What is your full system spec? Mainly CPU, RAM, PSU, etc.

Where are you getting the drops to 30 FPS? The game's cutscenes run at 30 FPS. I recall I always got a big drop in the intro where you jump in the big gun after swimming to take out the two mechanical beasts, but oddly enough...

fighting the really HUGE boss near the end
...was no problem on FPS. Mostly the game was just a bit slow to draw in texture details in some places.

I was able to run it reasonably well on my 7970 (same as 280X), but I may have had Vsync off. I'm pretty sure that's the problem. As far as I know they use the type of Vsync that automatically drops your FPS to 30 if it gets too far below 60 FPS.

Note as well that some displays have more of a...
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What is your full system spec? Mainly CPU, RAM, PSU, etc.

Where are you getting the drops to 30 FPS? The game's cutscenes run at 30 FPS. I recall I always got a big drop in the intro where you jump in the big gun after swimming to take out the two mechanical beasts, but oddly enough...

fighting the really HUGE boss near the end
...was no problem on FPS. Mostly the game was just a bit slow to draw in texture details in some places.

I was able to run it reasonably well on my 7970 (same as 280X), but I may have had Vsync off. I'm pretty sure that's the problem. As far as I know they use the type of Vsync that automatically drops your FPS to 30 if it gets too far below 60 FPS.

Note as well that some displays have more of a problem with screen tearing than others do. I've had some people tell me that is not the case, but in my experience it matters. Some games also exhibit worse screen tearing than others.

PCGamingWiki says turning off Vsync is one of the main ways to get higher FPS, but they also advise running it as Admin, which you can set in launch options of Steam. I would also advise trying to limit overhead in Steam, like playing in offline mode or at the very least, disable the overlay.

If you absolutely can't make a 60 FPS cap or Vsync work acceptably, try capping a bit lower, like in the 55-58 FPS range. Often times that keeps games running smoother.

The game also uses nearly 5GB RAM, so if you only have 8GB like I do, make sure you don't have any background programs running sucking up RAM, and reboot before you launch the game to free up RAM.

If you're using MSI Afterburner, check to see what GPU and CPU usage are. Ideally they should both be 70% or higher. And only use it to monitor things like usage, temps, etc. When you start monitoring FPS, use something like RTSS. It's much lower in RAM usage and often more compatible than MSI's overlay.

The person that made this video was using an R9 390, and the bench numbers show onscreen. It's also being run with Vsync disabled, and I don't see any screen tear. Note as well that a lot of times flat panel displays have less problem with screen tear on a certain refresh setting. For instance my 60Hz Panasonic HDTV handles games better at 59Hz.

[video="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aK-3r337Kb0"][/video]

 
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Windows 10 64 bit home edition
i7 6700
16 GB DDR4 2133
MSI R9 390
EVGA Super Nova G2 750 Watt

I have no other problems with any other games. My display is Freesync capable. It's a ViewSonic VX2457. I believe my GPU usage was at 100%, though the clock speed of my 390 is 1040 it was only at 1033 or 1035. My CPU never went to 100% either. I think the highest I saw was the low 70's or so.

From what I have found looking for fixes elsewhere online is that this is an issue mainly with AMD cards and something about OpenGL and AMD not producing good OpenGL capable drivers. People said Doom 2016 has the same issues. Though I believe I played Doom using OpenGL and got better performance though I use Vulkan mostly.

Thanks for the tips and advice. I will try some other stuff out.
 
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I think I may have found what at least part of your problem might be. According to WCCF Tech, that monitor you're using has a 47-75hz refresh range, which certainly isn't ideal for Freesync. Freesync doesn't work at all once you dip below the lower end of the display's refresh range. That was the biggest problem with Freesync at launch, and a lot of customers were waiting and hoping for monitors with a broader refresh range because of it. Unlike Freesync, G-Sync works at ANY FPS.

Have you tried playing it both with and without Vsync when Freesync is disabled? Also, when you disable Freesync, what is the game reporting your display's Hz as, and more importantly, what does Windows report it as?

And of course Doom is best played on Vulkan. In fact I feel more devs should use Vulkan. It is far superior to DirectX or OpenGl when used properly. I can play Doom 2016 at max settings on my 7970 no problem.
 
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I found that going into the Steam directory and going to the New Order game icon and using compatibility mode to run it as administrator fixed the FPS issue for The New Order. I am getting a pretty steady 60 fps. Some times it might go to 59 05 58 but that's about it.

The problem I am having now is with The New Blood, its capped at 30 FPS. If I switch V sync to adaptive it goes to 45-35 FPS. Never a straight 60. I don't see a way to disable V sync in The Old Blood. Not completely anyway. I will try your Freesync idea with The New Blood.

I know the monitor has Freesync and I can disable from the GPU and even with the monitors settings menu.
 
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That's why I told you to run it as Admin in Steam launch options. It's the same as doing it with a stand alone shortcut, only you do it in Steam launch options.

https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=1040-JWMT-2947

PCGamingWiki recommends using id5 Tweaker to raise FPS in The Old Blood.

https://pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Wolfenstein:_The_Old_Blood#High_frame_rate

 
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Running it as admin was a big help with The New Order. Now it's just The Old Blood I am having issues with. I tried running it as admin as well but it didn't work like it did for The New Order.

In The Old Blood even with Vsync off I never get a high frame rate. Maybe 40 at the most and this is during gameplay not cut scenes. I know cut scenes are usually 30fps. With Vsync on the game is locked at 30fps. It doesn't stutter and it runs smooth at a steady 30 fps it just not as smooth as 60 fps. It also doesn't crash like The New Order does which is a plus.

I will try the tweaker for The Old Blood . I don't know if it will work cause as I said I don't get 60 fps with Vsync off. It seems like this game really doesn't like my R9 390. Even turning some of the graphics settings down didn't allow me to have 60 fps. The highest I got was 48.

If I have to I can tolerate the game running at a steady 30 fps. I prefer 60 but there is only so much I can do. Except go back to Nvidia.
 
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Yeah, suffice to say PC gamers always have to be prepared to do some tweaking on their end with game settings and sometimes 3rd party tools. Here's a thread on Steam that might help with settings.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/350080/discussions/0/620712364045379458/
 
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