Netgear Nighthawk R7000 vs. Netgear X4S Modem/Router

swoo

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Hello everyone,

I have found plenty of articles on the forums about routers vs. routers based on brands, but I couldn't find anything about router vs. router/modem combo with my specific models. My current setup is a Nighthawk R7000 (http://netgear.com/home/products/networking/wifi-routers/R7000.aspx), that pulls from a Arris modem SB6183. I would like to include that I currently have Cox's Internet Premier package which is 100mbs down/ 10 mbps down.

I am asking if purchasing the Netgear C7800 modem/router combo will give me a real and tangible boost in network performance for my home network. I understand that my current setup operates off the DOCIS 3.0 standard and the C7800 operates on the 3.1 standard which if my research is correct, should provide a theoretical increase in performance by a factor of 10. I am not very good with understanding networking lingo, so I am not sure what I am working with or what would be better. I know that having a modem and router requires more hurdles for the signal to get through, than housing everything in one.

Finally, I must say that my current setup is acceptable and I do not truly find anything wrong with what I get currently. I play PC games such as League of Legends, will be playing Destiny 2 when it releases for PC at the end of the month, and will play Call of Duty WWII when it comes out for the Xbox One. While I play games, my girlfriend usually watches Netflix or Hulu, and both of us use our phones on the network along with her iPad.

I understand some of you might ask "Well if you are ok with your current setup, why spend $400 on a new modem/router?" I have no problem spending the money to keep up with current technology, and I know my router is nearly 4 years old (which seems ancient in wireless technology). I am not sure if my current internet plan will take advantage of the plan or not. However, if I can get a substantial increase in network performance and stability over what I currently have, then great.
 
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So I am going to lazy and not dig though the specs.

I assume you are talking docsis ? when you talk about 10 times performance.

First it does not matter if your ISP is not also supporting the higher docsis. It will just run in compatibility mode with the older standards. Then even if it does your speed is still limited to 100mbps that you pay for. Maybe it would give you the option to buy more but again it depends a lot on what the ISP has available in your area. Most times the speed offered above 100m is 300m and I think the sb6183 supports that but I am not sure.

Next all the fancy extra antenna buy you little in most cases. Even if the router support 4x4 mimo it is very rare to have a end device that also has 4 antenna...
So I am going to lazy and not dig though the specs.

I assume you are talking docsis ? when you talk about 10 times performance.

First it does not matter if your ISP is not also supporting the higher docsis. It will just run in compatibility mode with the older standards. Then even if it does your speed is still limited to 100mbps that you pay for. Maybe it would give you the option to buy more but again it depends a lot on what the ISP has available in your area. Most times the speed offered above 100m is 300m and I think the sb6183 supports that but I am not sure.

Next all the fancy extra antenna buy you little in most cases. Even if the router support 4x4 mimo it is very rare to have a end device that also has 4 antenna. The router will drop back to the speed the device supports. This is also true on the 2.4g band with the so called 800m. This in addition to running 4 feeds also uses a encoding method that is not part of the 802.11n standard. Many device vendors refuse to add support for non official things.

Pretty much you will get very little benefit to upgrading. Most the new technology is just a way to get bigger numbers on the box the real life usable increase in speed is not usable by most people.
 
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svalbaard

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You won't get any benefit. Newer routers are very good at providing additional firmware "services" but then you should only upgrade if you need the functionality. For example, I upgraded to my current ASUS RT88 because I wanted to specifically use it as a repeater on my existing network, and that it has a baked in OpenVPN client and CPU horsepower so that every device on my LAN can be selectively routed through my VPN provider rather than my standard ISP (due to the UKs draconian internet surveillance policy). All of the other bells and whistles such as MIMO and priority packet routing (i.e. prioritising streaming over browsing etc.) et al make very little noticeable difference to my internal WIFI connectivity speeds.

For reference, my ISP is VM and they have implemented DOCSIS 3.1. On the ground it makes very little difference. But it doesn't stop them using it as marketing BS.