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omgitzkontrol202

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I have recently gotten my hands non the EVGA GTX 1060 6GB. Soon after, I bought the game, Grand Theft Auto 5. I knew I could play it easily because I had looked up my specs on the game prior. Most people get around 60-90 FPS whilst playing, I get around 30-50. I have the same exact settings and I have been looking eveywhere for an answer. Yes I have tried going into my nividia control panel and switching all the stuff to make it run faster, but none of it works. Please help! Thank you in advance!
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i3 6100 3.7gz
GTX 1060 6GB EVGA
8GB DDR4 2133mz Ram (2x4)
GIGABYTE GA-H110M-A
EVGA 500W Bronze PSU
Seagate 1TB 7200RPM HDD
 
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GTA V is a fully quad threaded game. Your CPU is only dual core. With HyperThreading on it is quad thread, but the 2 virtual cores are only about half as powerful as physical cores.

Thus you are really getting at best the equivalent of 3 physical cores, and that's IF the game utilizes HyperThreading well, which most don't. In short your CPU is bottlenecking your GPU.

You can verify this by using MSI Afterburner and enabling the CPU and GPU usage sensors. To see that info onscreen while playing you'll need to also tick the box at the bottom of each sensor you enable to show onscreen.

Ideally both GPU and CPU should have at least 70% (preferably higher) usage. It sounds to me like you're comparing other's FPS using only GPU as a criteria. You have to factor in what CPU they're using too. A slow CPU can slow down the GPU because the GPU has to wait for it to send data to it.

It also doesn't help that you have very slow (2133MHz) RAM. DDR4 is only faster than DDR3 when you buy faster speeds than that, because the timings are slower (takes more CPU cycles to communicate with CPU).
 
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I understand this, but on youtube, I have the exact same configuration as other people, other than the fact that they have different brand GPU's. They have the same cpu, ram, motherboard, hard drive, yet I get significantly lower fps than them

 
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Can you give links to all such videos you've found, because I'm very skeptical about this? Also, did you make sure you were using the exact same game settings as them?

 
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Yes I did make sure to use the exact same game settings, and here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1vbAIQjirc, he has a different motherboard, Don't see how that would affect gameplay that significantly, and here, he has a different motherboard aswell. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5fiCQ_v4l4&t=709s
 
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Well I already see some inconsistencies just in the author of the 2nd vid saying he's using mostly low settings and getting a lot of stutter.

You also never said whether you checked GPU and CPU usage with Afterburner.

Other than that the usual suspects apply, being checking temps, voltage output, voltage fluctuation, background progs, defragging, and malware scans.

The "proof" you've shown is hardly credible though with one person getting great results, and the other not. Since the 1st person's results are beyond what I'd expect from such a CPU, I'd ask him in the comments if he applied any special performance tweaks. Approach YouTube cautiously as far as proof goes though. Also matters what drivers you use.
 
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I forgot I had never answered you. Turns out you were completely wrong. I had uninstalled the drivers of my previous card (The GT 610) and reinstalled the 1060's drivers. The game now runs completely smooth at around 80fps on mostly high settings. Nothing to do with my CPU not being strong enough, just the fact that I never uninstalled my last GPU's drivers. Thanks for the help though.
 
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Well that's a noob mistake many make when they first upgrade the GPU. Had you told me you'd not done that initially, I'd have said to do the same. I maintain that your CPU is bottle necking your GPU though. You would likely be able to play at higher settings otherwise.
 
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The way you said this was as if you're trying to make it sound like it was my fault that I had not done that, when I had asked for help for a reason. IF it is such a common "Noob mistake" Then you should've checked. Not trying to be mean but it would've saved me a few days of trying to figure it out on my own.

 
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Checked? What, am I supposed to be psychic? You mentioned nothing about swapping out your GPU. That you didn't mention it is on you, not the one offering help. There are numerous times threads go on many many pages worth of responses, all because the person posting it didn't reveal key info.

Worst thing to do is act smug, you should have apologized instead of telling me I'm wrong. Had you educated yourself on how to swap a GPU properly, you wouldn't have even needed to make a thread about this. THAT'S what you should be thinking, not gloating about figuring out something so simple.

It's like this, you want good results, you give good details. That goes for asking for help or even using keywords when Googling. We all started out as noobs at one point, the thing is to own up to it instead of arguing the point. Otherwise you repeat the same old mistakes over and over.

One of my pet peeves when people ask for help is blaming the person offering it and acting smug saying, "Oh btw, you were wrong", when they didn't even reveal the full details of the situation. You get a bad rep that way and no one will want to help you. Just sayin. See how far you get trying to solve your own problems.

I maintain, not removing an old driver before installing a new GPU IS a noob mistake. It's common knowledge among avid gamers. The more you remember that, the better chance you won't do it again and repeat the process of pissing off someone trying to help you.

 
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