Beginner Building a PC (Intel vs Ryzen)

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Hey everyone,

I'm a console gamer looking to make the transition into PC gaming world. I started by looking at buying a gaming PC and after some digging I realized I can get a lot more bang for my buck if I build. Now I'm not well rounded in the world of computers whatsoever. However, after spending many hours researching websites and watching youtube tutorials, I'm starting to feel that building a PC isn't the daunting task that I initially thought it to be.

Now onto my question. After much research I felt that the Ryzen 5 1600x would be the best CPU to build a computer around. It has a great price point, and the multi threaded core seems like it would have some longevity factor with many predicting that is the route that more and more games will be coded for. Now I seen on Newegg.ca that the intel i5-7600k is on sale for $269.99 CAD. That's a $110.00 off. So that has me thinking about intel again.

The only thing I will be using the computer for is gaming and generic PC use such as emails and web surfing. I guess I would also like to know which CPU is the most user friendly with best "Plug and play" capabilities. I would love to hear feedback from the knowledgable community here and open to all your suggestions and help. Thank you in advance!

My original build was going to be something like this;
CPU - Ryzen 5 1600x
MOBO - MSI B350 Tomahawk
GPU - MSI Radeon RX580
Corsair Vengeance Ram 8gb x 2
EVGA Power Supply 600W
 
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Okay so this is the build that I've come up with taking all your advice and plus some research.

CPU - Ryzen 5 1600
MOBO - ASUS Rog Strix b350-f Gaming ATX
RAM - Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB
Storage - Samsung 850 EVO 250 GB
Storage 2 - Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 7200 RPM
GPU - ASUS GTX 1060 6 GB
CASE - Phanteks Eclipse P400S Tempered Glass
Power - EVGA Super Nova G2 650W
WIFI - TP-Link TL-WDN4800 PCI-Express x1

Is this a good build? And are there any suggestions where I can save but still have good quality?
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Solid build, just make sure your psu is full-modular, G2, G3, P2+ if evga. For me, I will get Ryzen 1600 instead, since the Tomahawk MB can easily OC 1600 to the same level of 1600X. However, if you don't want to OC, 1600X is good to have :) I5 is bad due to no hyperthreading, which many games benefit from, including battlefield 1 etc. What is your total budget? I may put together a list for you. What components need to be included?
 
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RX580's are still pretty steep, pricewise, compared to most GTX1060 (6 gb) models...; I'm not sure the extra $50-$70 price is worth it, unless planning on attempting 1440P gaming with it...

Goodluck whichever way you choose....

(Hardware Unboxed just did a comparison on youtube of assorted GPUs in various priceranges...worth catching, his reviews are quite informative)
 
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Hi Vapour, thanks for feedback. A build part list would help me tremendously because like I said I am new to this. Putting the desktop together isn't so much the part that intimidates it me, it is setting up the BIOS and making sure everything runs fine and any possible trouble shooting if a component isn't running perfectly. Overclocking is something I would be open to, but I would have to watch some tutorials in order to learn how. I would be open to switching the GPU to a GTX 1070 if its a better price. Especially since I really like the Asus PG278Q Rog Swift monitor which has a G-sync function that isn't supported by the Radeon graphics card.

As for a budget, I don't necessarily have one set in stone. I have disposable income but I do not want to sink it all into the computer. I have a motto that if you pay cheap, you pay twice. So in that case I don't want to buy components that I will just turn around and feel the need to upgrade in 6 months time, but I also do not need a $2000+ desktop. I would like the desktop to be in the $1250-$1500 CAD range, as long as I can get a very solid gaming computer with an immersive experience. As for components, can you list all the components that I would need?
 
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I'm open to the GTX GPU's especially since the Monitor I like has G-sync which from what I Radeon's do not support. So as long as everything is compatible i would go with the GTX. Is their a sizeable difference between the GTX1060 and 1070?
 
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This is the new build I just came up with on Newegg.ca to see how much it would be
CPU - Ryzen 5 1600
Cooler - Spire that comes with the Ryzen 5
MOBO - ASRock AB350 Pro4
GPU - Asus GeForce GTX Dual-GTX 1060-06G 6 Gb
RAM - Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3000
Case - NZXT S340 White
EVGA 650 G2 220 Gold
 
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Looks really good! I would use ca.PCPartPicker.com to formulate part lists, as it will tell you of all deals and savings you can make, as well as the cheapest retailers. Your build is excellent, although going to the upper end of the that spectrum, you can net huge gains in performance. For this build, the first thing you should upgrade is the RAM (get an extra 8gb), and get new CPU cooler, like the Cryorig H7.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($256.50 @ shopRBC)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($89.50 @ Vuugo)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($109.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($129.95 @ Vuugo)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Memory Express)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Turbo OC Video Card ($648.50 @ Vuugo)
Case: Corsair - SPEC-01 ATX Mid Tower Case ($53.99 @ PC Canada)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($139.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Total: $1478.41
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-01 22:10 EDT-0400
 
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($256.50 @ shopRBC)
Motherboard: MSI - B350 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard ($109.99 @ Memory Express)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($194.99 @ Memory Express)
Storage: Kingston - SSDNow UV400 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($89.99 @ Memory Express)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Memory Express)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB Mini Video Card ($330.00 @ Newegg Canada)
Case: Deepcool - TESSERACT BF ATX Mid Tower Case ($44.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - EVO Edition 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Total: $1156.44
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-01 21:57 EDT-0400
 
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Nice build! will I be able to game on high settings and get well over 60 fps with a 1060 GPU?
 
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Depends on the game, honestly. Most games you will.
 
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I'd wait until tomorrow when Intel releases Coffee Lake. The i5 8600k (6 core) is expected to perform around 7700k level for gaming, wait for benchmarks to prove one way or another. If this is true the 8600k will be a better gaming cpu than the 1600x at a similar price.
 
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Okay so this is the build that I've come up with taking all your advice and plus some research.

CPU - Ryzen 5 1600
MOBO - ASUS Rog Strix b350-f Gaming ATX
RAM - Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB
Storage - Samsung 850 EVO 250 GB
Storage 2 - Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 7200 RPM
GPU - ASUS GTX 1060 6 GB
CASE - Phanteks Eclipse P400S Tempered Glass
Power - EVGA Super Nova G2 650W
WIFI - TP-Link TL-WDN4800 PCI-Express x1

Is this a good build? And are there any suggestions where I can save but still have good quality?
 
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