Used Dell or HP for general purpose/gaming -- Bad idea?

longbowman

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Hi all,

I have a chance to buy either an HP Envy 750 Desktop (i7-6700, 16GB RAM) for about $575 or a Dell XPS 8700 from 2014 (4790 with 16GB DDR3) for about $525.

I'm mostly interested for general purpose (photos, browsing, Netflix, home theater, gaming); not really looking for a top of the line rig for overly intense gaming or anything.

I have built my own Studio PC before, which was was worth it considering the upgradability, but in looking at prospective self-builds, without factoring in shipping, time, etc, it seems like a comparable PC would be in the realm of about $800 or more.

I'd of course upgrade the GPU in the aforementioned PCs to (likely) a 1050ti or 960, depending on what I can find used.

Any advice? Is it worth building new? The problem is that a 4790 is still more than enough processor for gaming and DDR4 does little to nothing over DDR3 practically. My main concern is longevity of the system as a whole, as I'm sure fans, PSU, etc will need to be replaced.

In Canada by the way, so currently shipping from the US is a non-option thanks to the wonderful relationship being nurtured by the delightful orange-haired man below and the I-think-he-might-just-be-a-pretty-face PM up here (everything is being dinged with import charges).
 

longbowman

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Dell:
Mini Tower
i7 4790 (3.6x4)
2TB Toshiba (I think?) HDD
16GB DDR3 SDRAM (brand not listed) (non-ECC)
Chipset: Z87 Express (LGA 1150 socket)
For storage controller it lists 1x SATA Integrated, Serial ATA-600
Can take on mSATA SSD, one regular SSD, 3x 3.5 HDD. SATA 3.0.
80+ Bronze PSU (I think it's a 490watt)
1x PCI 16, 1x PCI 1, 2x PCI 4, 2x PCI mini
It lists Discrete Video Memory as up to 2GB GDDR5 -- does that mean a 4GB 960 or 970 would be limited/wouldn't work?

HP:
i7 6700 (3.4x4)
16GB DD3R (Hynix?) (I think it only has 2x DIMM slots whereas the Dell has 4)
Toshiba 1TB HDD
3x 3.5" Internal bays available
1x PCIe 1
1x PCIe 16

EDIT: Ooh, I think the Envy might only have a 300 watt PSU which makes that a mandatory upgrade.

On the Dell site I remember reading Dell employees mentioning that a GTX 970 was tested on a stock 8700 and works fine, so I assume a 960 or the like would be okay without having to upgrade PSU.

Those were about all the specs I can find, I assume PSU, HDD, memory etc is all rebranded.