Building my first gaming pc. Need Help!

semperfiwindowtinting · Oct 4, 2017

Hello and thank you for checking out my thread. Little back ground on me, have been console gaming since I was 12. 11 years later I am ready to get off of console and move to pc gaming. I want to get into the super competitive gameplay on games like counterstrike and and combat arms, that pc offers. I'm mostly into fps I played mostly cod on console. I have never had a decent computer, only mediocre ones, like right now I have a hp pavilion 20 all in one. Lol. I am in the midst of selling my ps4, Xbox one, Astros, scuf and Elite controller. Only items im keeping from my console setup is my monitor. So couple questions
I want to build a pc, but have never done it before, have limited computer knowledge, I know I am very picky about what is in my toys, I want to know I have good parts which is why I want to go the building route. I have done a little research, and I know I need at least an i5 which dual maybe quad core, a decent graphics card " have no idea what the numbers in those meam", 8gb of ram, and an Ssd not a mechanical drive? Someone please assist me in understanding this crazy world of computer building. I'll be here to answer any questions about what I'll use it for, you guys are the professionals and would love if someone could guide me, tell me what parts I need, best place to get them, and what's good for my needs. Also I would like to stream games. Two more questions, is it worth getting a gaming router for the pc? One of the expensive ones. I like having the competitive edge, notice all the top tier stuff I had for console. One more questions, I have a vg24de Asus gaming monitor. Will that work for the pc I think when bought it it was a console gaming monitor, it has 0ms response time and 144 blah blah blah. Any information would help! Thanks!

Edit: total budget I would like to stay between 500 - 700 depending

Ballizt · Oct 4, 2017

How much money do you think you'll have after selling those items, and js you don't need an ssd if you can afford one get it but hdd's are fine

semperfiwindowtinting · Oct 4, 2017

@ballizt 500-700 and I just heard a ssd making things load faster. Don't really know the difference.

vapour · Oct 4, 2017

Assume budget, Ryzen 1600 is the best bang for the buck, 2 more cores and hyper-threading beneficial for streaming. 1060 6gb is good enough for 1080p gaming, but 1070 may be better:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($195.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - B350 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard ($70.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($90.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: SK hynix - SL308 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($77.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Hitachi - Ultrastar 750GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($29.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB SC GAMING Video Card ($269.89 @ Amazon)
Case: DIYPC - Ranger-R4-R ATX Mid Tower Case ($25.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - EVO Edition 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $801.70
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-04 10:25 EDT-0400

semperfiwindowtinting · Oct 4, 2017

Wow thank you vapour so much! That really helps! Only thing might be a stupid question, but when building a pc aren't I supposed to buy cooling fans?

vapour · Oct 4, 2017

semperfiwindowtinting :

For intel, maybe, they tend to run hotter. Ryzen 1600 comes with a decent CPU cooler for decent OCing, I am using it right now and OC 3.2 to 3.8 GHz without any temp issues. I guess you also could mean case fans? The case comes with 3 fans. Try it, if not enough, buy several extra

jacobnelson920 · Oct 4, 2017

semperfiwindowtinting :

You only need a cpu cooler, your case will probably have some pre-installed, as nearly all cases come with at least one already. But for a cpu cooler a nice budget cooler is the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo, It's an aircooler, so maybe notnquite cool enough for a 6 core.

Thor Goodwill · Oct 4, 2017

Im not going to write a memoir on this subject, however feel free to ping me on specific questions and i'll give my opinion.

madmatt30 · Oct 4, 2017

^ that ranger case comes with 3 fans installed already & ryzen CPU's come with very good coolers.

So really you don't need to add anything cooling wise at all.

If you're budget is limited to $700 then you need to compromise with the GPU & manage without an ssd (the ssd only affect cold boot times & initial game loading anyway not actual gameplay)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($195.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - B350 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard ($70.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($138.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($45.69 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3GB Mini Video Card ($194.99 @ Amazon)
Case: DIYPC - Ranger-R4-R ATX Mid Tower Case ($25.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($23.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $696.49
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-04 10:43 EDT-0400

semperfiwindowtinting · Oct 4, 2017

Wow thank you everybody for the amazing replies it really is opening my eyes. Will I need to buy Microsoft for this computer? I mean like don't i need a operating system to use the computer? And And Matt if go with the cheaper graphics card will games like counter strike and combat arms suffer? I may also want to play call of duty on the pc. Older ones and the new ww2 one coming out . Thanks again!

vapour · Oct 4, 2017

semperfiwindowtinting :

You can use win10 without buying until you can afford:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiq8aXdpdfWAhVDQCYKHVG-B_sQFggmMAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.howtogeek.com%2F244678%2Fyou-dont-need-a-product-key-to-install-and-use-windows-10%2F&usg=AOvVaw0XZXlwLL2RC76vEliS83m4

madmatt30 · Oct 4, 2017

^ you can use windows 10 free (at least for the time being Microsoft are allowing this ) & just need to download win 10 media creation tool from the Microsoft website & create a boot able flash drive (you do need a minimum 4gb blank usb stick to do this & obviously the use of a windows PC).

The 3gb 1060 is not as strong as the 6gb model

However its some $70 less & is still a decent performer & with your budget constraint it has to be done really.

I put 16gb ram in that build because while its not a necessity at the minute it removes the need for upgrades in the future.

The ryzen 1600 , that motherboard & 16gb ram will see you out for the next 4-5 years IMO for gaming.
+ 16gb is only $40 more than 8gb so it just makes more sense.

semperfiwindowtinting · Oct 4, 2017

Thanks for the reply mad Matt. I don't really want to do all that with the tag stick I would rather just buy windows 10 and have a normal computer. No disrespect. And what fps will the cheaper graphics card run with the 16g ram

madmatt30 · Oct 4, 2017

^ the usb install only needs to be done once mate , & once its installed you can remove it & reformat the flash drive for whatever other use.
After its installed it is a normal computer!!
many people use the USB install even with a proper paid & registered windows simply because not many PC owners even bother with an optical CD/DVD drive nowadays (a lot of cases can't even have one fitted)

Fps ?? Depends on game & settings , CS & Combat Arms?? You'll max your monitor refresh rate on those 2.
WW2 ? Who knows , not out yet.

Remember PC games are configurable so lowering graphics settings raises fps substantially , a big benefit over console games.

semperfiwindowtinting · Oct 4, 2017

Ok I see what your saying. Basically I won't have a optical drive anyway so I will have to use the flash drive anyway. So if you don't have a operating system will the computer not turn on or what

vapour · Oct 4, 2017

700 budget with OS:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 1200 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($109.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - B350 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard ($70.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($90.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: SK hynix - SL308 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($77.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Hitachi - Ultrastar 750GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($29.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Video Card ($154.99 @ Amazon)
Case: DIYPC - Ranger-R4-R ATX Mid Tower Case ($25.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - EVO Edition 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($89.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $690.69
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-04 12:05 EDT-0400

madmatt30 · Oct 4, 2017

^ yeah sod that though , use win 10 free & keep the 1060 in IMO

@semperfiwindowtinting - without windows installed or without even the flash drive with the windowa installation on ready to install - the PC will still turn on , it'll ask to select a boot device , wait 20 seconds then boot to the board bios instead.

semperfiwindowtinting · Oct 4, 2017

Thank you vapour ! Will everything still run decent on that build? And when I buy OS DOES it come on a flash drive or a disk

vapour · Oct 4, 2017

semperfiwindowtinting :

Mostly will be product key/online download, you will need a 8gb or so flash drive to make a bootable usb. See
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiEkJbmtNfWAhWByyYKHZ3fD8cQFgguMAE&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DwzuCgm7dIEc&usg=AOvVaw3Kgbtt86dO-vEUsKZdMO6T

If I get to choose, I will pick the 1060 build. It is not wrong to use win10 without trying because MS call it win 10 trial. By the time they do not allow any trial, you may already have ~$90 to activate it

Your call, 1050 Ti FPS will definitely be worse than 1060 6gb, could be 30FPS diff.

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