I'm trying to build a gaming PC and hideously lost...

philip_martin_2005

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Hello everyone!

My old PC is currently preparing to enter the great scrapheap in the sky so I've been looking to buy a new gaming PC. Having discovered this terrific site however, I think it'll be more cost effective to build it myself (even though I'm hopelessly out of my depth with regards to components, compatibility, correct lingo, and pretty much everything else to do with computers!)

The build I am aiming towards is currently out of my price range (around £400-£500 initial outlay, with extras coming later). That said, I have a dream but don't know how to get there.

The build I have is thus: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/Cdy3LD

As I say, this is the dream. I can't do it all at the same time so should I start with just this motherboard and a basic cpu? Is it easy to change a cpu? Will I need a graphics card straight away? (for some reason the price on the GPU I selected on pcpartpicked doesn't have a price but it's around £350). Can anyone recommend a build that is relatively cheap but which can be upgraded over time towards my end result?

Obviously I will need some storage, but I'd prefer a SSD (as I hear they are good for the operating system and games). I have an external hard drive plugged in for movies and such but would prefer a second HD in the computer for them too.

I tend to play LOTRO, Sim City and Civilization the most, though sometimes GTA, while watching movies (dual monitors which are 1920x1080)

I really hope someone can help!

Thank you :)

NB - if possible the case needs slots for an optical drive and a card reader (which is why i went for the one i did)

 
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Q1: why do you need 1070? 1060 6gb is enough for 1080p gaming. 2k monitors are expensive!
Q2: I5-6500 ?! not worth the money after coffee lake
PSU should be 550W+ for 1070. Wireless adapter is overkill, 500GB ssd is also overkill
For your budget, I recommend Ryzen, last longer due to it is first gen new AMD CPU. If you like my idea, I can put together a build for you based on Ryzen
 

philip_martin_2005

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I went for a 1070 because a lot of reviews seemed to suggest that it was a great piece of kit which would last a long time. I apologise, but I don't know how it relates to 2k monitors though. The two monitors I have are 1920x1080 and I am happy with them :)

Similar with the i5-6500. The reviews I saw suggested it was pretty fab so i opted for that... I am afraid my lack of knowledge is showing. I did see the Ryzen, but where I read suggested the i5 was better in the long run.

Once again, with the wireless adapter, I thought if it could transfer more data faster it would be better... I guess this isn't the case? Similar with the SSD... bigger is better?

I very much like your ideas and if you could suggest a build I would be very grateful!! As long as i can play the games i highlighted on high or above at a good speed I will be a very happy human :)
 
1. It means if you play on 1080p, 1060 6gb and 1070 perform similarly
2. Nope, Ryzen lasts longer, Ryzen 1600 is 6 cores with similar price
3. It all depends on budget, normally 250gb ssd + 1tb hdd
4. See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTt-S9DaO6g for my build, my combo is very close to i7-6700k even:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor (£178.50 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI - B350 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard (£85.43 @ Box Limited)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (£155.94 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£134.34 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£51.99 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: NVIDIA - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card
Case: NZXT - Phantom 240 ATX Mid Tower Case (£55.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£88.67 @ CCL Computers)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit (£82.74 @ Aria PC)
Wireless Network Adapter: Asus - PCE-AC56 PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter (£49.99 @ Box Limited)
Case Fan: NZXT - Air Flow Series 83.6 CFM 140mm Fan (£12.08 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £895.67
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-11 15:38 BST+0100
 

philip_martin_2005

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Thank you very much for this ! It seems an excellent build though, sadly, still outside my current budget. I think this will definitely be the end game target.

Are the main components to aim for the motherboard? What I will do, if so, is buy that, and get cheap processor, memory and hd and they buy the rest of the components as funds become available to upgrade.

You have really helped me out here and I am so grateful!
 


The issue with picking the parts you did is that you are going on a low budget but picking high budget parts. So for a low budget system, a 1070 is out. So is a large SSD. Buying lower end parts now and going up later is basically paying for the parts twice, and in the future the 1070 will be replaced by something else, as will the CPUs.

You should also list what parts you have now, you can often re-use parts, especially the video card if you have an OK one now, maybe case and power supply also.

If you have a gaming grade video card and good quality PSU and case you like, you have to only buy a CPU, motherboard, DDR4 RAM and you are done. You can even re-use the hard drives you have now if they are in good shape. Then as you save more money, get a video card, change the case for something you like, get a solid state drive, etc...
 
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