New AMD build, need a "before buy" advice, and couple of questions.

dbz87 · Oct 11, 2017

Hello guys!

I am buying a new PC, and want to get some "okay, go for it" or "nahh, change it" advice, and of course I have a few questions before the buying. Here is the build:

MSI B350 Tomahawk
AMD Ryzen 5 1600
CRUCIAL 8GB DDR4 2400MHz CL17 CT8G4DFS824A
WD Blue 1TB EZEX
NZXT Source 340
BE QUIET! Pure Power 10 400W (Is that PSU works well with the NZXT case?)
Asus Dual 1060 6GB
ARCTIC COOLING MX-4 (4g) (Do I really need it or is the stock one good too from AMD?)

I was thinking on to change the ram to another one, like one of these:
CRUCIAL 8GB Ballistix Elite DDR4 2666MHz CL16 BLE8G4D26AFEA
HyperX 8GB Predator DDR4 3000MHz CL15 HX430C15PB3/8

And another struggle is the classic SSD/HDD question. Buy a WD1003FZEX instead of the Blue EZEX, or buy an SSD only, or an SSD+HDD combo.

SSD only would be a SAMSUNG 500GB 850 EVO, SSD+HDD would be a 250GB and 1TB HDD,maybe the Blue one.

I am not really a data storing guy, I already have one 1TB external HDD, storing the family pics and stuffs on it.

I would use the PC for FullHD gaming, and home stuffs. No hardcore working (like rendering, Photoshop, video editing, etc), no insane ammount of data storing, etc.

So what do you think about the build? What would you change if its needed, and what is your advice about the SSD/HDD question?

Thank you very much!

superninja12 · Oct 11, 2017

If it is gaming , i would get the new intel coffee lake i5 8400, its a beast in gaming with a z370 motherboard. For the storage i would get a 250gb ssd like crucial or samsung, you can always add more later. For the powersupply defently something better like the corsair cx550m or seasonic focus 550w/ corsair rmx if u can afford it.

spdragoo · Oct 11, 2017

Definitely a good idea to consider a better PSU & an SSD as your primary storage. The actual models will probably depend on a) your budget, & b) the capabilities of the motherboard you're looking at.

i5-8400 & Ryzen 5 1600 are within $5 USD of each other, so the price comparison comes down to the motherboard itself. But it also comes down to the CPU capabilities. Right now, the only 370 chipset motherboards available are the Z370 motherboards...which are meant for overclocking (hence the "Z"). The i5-8400 cannot be overclocked...so you're paying at least an extra $30 USD (MSI Z370-A Pro vs. B350 Tomahawk), more like $40-50 USD if you want to match the other capabilities of the B350 board (like USB3.1 Type C ports).

As for performance...Techspot didn't do a full comparison, but they did do some testing of the i5-8400 as part of their i3-8350K review to see how the Coffee Lake i3 compared to the Ryzen 3 (https://www.techspot.com/review/1499-intel-core-i3-8100-i3-8350K/). The last page has their price-to-performance charts (the farther down & to the right on the chart, the better the result)... but because Intel only has Z370 motherboards available (whereas AMD has A320, B350, & X370 boards available), they also did price comparisons including the motherboard prices. On the 3 sets they did, the i5-8400 & Ryzen 5 1600 were pretty much in the same region; even though the i5 was slightly further to the right, it was also slightly higher because of the higher price.

So, I think your CPU & motherboard choices are fine.

silverfeather · Oct 11, 2017

spdragoo :

Definitely a good idea to consider a better PSU & an SSD as your primary storage. The actual models will probably depend on a) your budget, & b) the capabilities of the motherboard you're looking at.

i5-8400 & Ryzen 5 1600 are within $5 USD of each other, so the price comparison comes down to the motherboard itself. But it also comes down to the CPU capabilities. Right now, the only 370 chipset motherboards available are the Z370 motherboards...which are meant for overclocking (hence the "Z"). The i5-8400 cannot be overclocked...so you're paying at least an extra $30 USD (MSI Z370-A Pro vs. B350 Tomahawk), more like $40-50 USD if you want to match the other capabilities of the B350 board (like USB3.1 Type C ports).

As for performance...Techspot didn't do a full comparison, but they did do some testing of the i5-8400 as part of their i3-8350K review to see how the Coffee Lake i3 compared to the Ryzen 3 (https://www.techspot.com/review/1499-intel-core-i3-8100-i3-8350K/). The last page has their price-to-performance charts (the farther down & to the right on the chart, the better the result)... but because Intel only has Z370 motherboards available (whereas AMD has A320, B350, & X370 boards available), they also did price comparisons including the motherboard prices. On the 3 sets they did, the i5-8400 & Ryzen 5 1600 were pretty much in the same region; even though the i5 was slightly further to the right, it was also slightly higher because of the higher price.

So, I think your CPU & motherboard choices are fine.

+1.

i would change the rams to faster ones, since ryzen likes faster rams.

neiler0847 · Oct 13, 2017

I won't build a system without putting the OS on an SSD. If you're really trying to stay cheap, get a 120 GB SSD. But even a 240 GB SSD can be had for just over $100 CDN. Separating your OS from your data and other media is awesome when you want to reinstall Windows.

jonnyGURU actually rated the BeQuiet Pure Power 10 CM quite highly. Not sure what the difference is between the CM and non-CM models. 400W seems pretty low, especially given that pretty powerful GPU. I don't know what pricing is like in your neck of the woods but these Pure Power PSUs look really expensive for what you get. There are many better value PSUs out there. I won't go less than 650W PSU rated Gold or better.

Based on your other specs, saving money does not appear to be a driver. And you want to play games. Get 16GB of RAM.

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