M.2 SSD on Asus Crosshair V Formula-Z

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dsandrade9205

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I've been wanting to do some small upgrades but finding the answers to my questions all in one place has been all but possible, and so before I piece them together incorrectly and come up with a wrong conclusion, I want to see if someone has some more experience with this.

I've been looking at the Samsung 960 EVO series but I had some concerns about using them on my current motherboard, the Asus Crosshair V Formula-Z (spec sheet in link). So I had several questions regarding M.2.

Because that motherboard doesn't have an m.2 port, I'll have to buy an m.2 to PCIe adapter. I also know this is like one of the last motherboards that used PCIe v2 which brings a whole new subset of questions. I'm about to get into a little math, so I definitely would appreciate if someone pointed out if I was wrong.

PCIe v2 should be half the throughput of v3 which is 500 MiB/s vs 1GiB/s respectively. The adapters I see for sale on amazon are PCIe 4x compatible, thus 4x500 would be 2GiB/s. This seems like it would negatively effect performance as it may be enough for the write speed of the EVO of 1900 MB/s but definitely not the read of 3200 MB/s which would require around 3051 MiB/s. If I could've used the x8 slots, it seems like that would be fine, but I haven't seen any x8 compatible ones. Is there any way to make this work?

On top of that, I was looking at some adapters that held two m.2 ssd's, but one used a SATA connection. I can't see this as being viable at all, but I wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something completely obvious. Wouldn't running m.2s on SATA be a terrible idea? The bandwidth throughput would be 600MB/s which is just enough for a regular SATA SSD.

Does it look like I'll want a new motherboard before I start looking into M.2's? I was going to upgrade down the road, but I was hoping to be able to get faster drives now, and just switch them over to the new board when I do the full upgrade.

On the slim chance that I can actually make this work on this board, the reason I was looking at the two slot PCIe adapters is that instead of getting the 960 Pro, I saw that two 256 EVOs and two adapters was cheaper then one 960 500GB Pro. Would that be a bad idea, or just shell out the extra 40 bucks for the Pro?

Hope the question wasn't too long winded, but thanks for at least taking the time to read



tl;dr: can I make Samsung 960 EVOs work at their full bandwidth on a Asus Crosshair V Formula Z through any means?
 
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I'm running the Samsung Evo 500GB m.2 on my crosshair V formula-z via pcie adapter. Natively it does not work but Stickmode over on this site...

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A: your motherbd would not boot from an nvme m.2 drive no matter what you do; at least not until someone developes a more advanced adapter card akin to a bootable raid card.

B: The adapters you refer to only supply the 4 pcie lanes to the m.2 drive because thats all the nvme drive can use. They only have 4 pcie lanes built into them, You also cannot run two different cards on the same pcie slot which is why you can't run two nvme drives on an x8 card unless someone creates a much more advanced adapter card. (Don't hold your breath)

C: M.2 can also carry sata and yes they do make sata m.2 drives and you are correct in that they are no faster then their 2.5" sata counterparts.

 

dsandrade9205

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thanks for the reply, I'm really glad I didn't waste my time and money by buying all that stuff ahead of time... seems like I need a new motherboard.


Just for some extra clarification...

A: so no adapter cards can bit NVMe at the moment? Just to make sure, you CAN boot off you have a derivated m.2 port right?

B & C: So in short, getting the Samsung 960's is a waste of money without PCIe 3 or m.2 slots?
 

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A: No Adapter card is made yet that can boot an NVME card on its own, like a bootbable sata or raid card can. Atleasnone that i am aware of.
NVME boot requires support at the uefi firmware level and those motherbds usually have an m.2 slot . There are some that lack the port but the manufacturer have added nvme support in the firmware.

B&C: Maybe not.
Have a read here if you don't mind risking your system to a user mod'ed firmware. Asus still does not officially support nvme on this bd, nor does gigabyte on my old amd rig :(
 

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I'm running the Samsung Evo 500GB m.2 on my crosshair V formula-z via pcie adapter. Natively it does not work but Stickmode over on this site http://www.win-raid.com/t2425f44-OFFER-ASUS-CrossHair-V-Formula-Z-MOD-bios.html has altered the bios file to make it work.

You need update to asus bios 2201 first. Then put the bios Stickmode create on a flash drive (I used his ULTIMATE-MOD_CF5Z.zip). flashback via the link button on the back of the computer (ROG connect - hold the button above the white usb slot for 5 seconds). It writes his bios to the system and then you have to change the UEFI settings to get it running. He lists all the steps with pictures in post #8.

I couldn't get windows 7 to install correctly for the life of me (Failed on the final finishing up step) got stuck putting on windows 10. which quite frankly I hate. But aside from that it works and is much faster than my ssd raid was.
 
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