Anywhere to Save Money on my Build

richiestang_78 · Oct 11, 2017

So I'm doing a build, the first in many many years and would like to know if and where I could save a little money and not sacrifice performance if possible. My build thus far is:

Intel - Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor
Asus - STRIX Z270-E GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard
Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory
EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card
Corsair - H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler
EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply
Phanteks - Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case
Samsung - 850 EVO 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive

Im not looking to do any 4k or VR gaming.

vapour · Oct 11, 2017

PSU can be cheaper, cooler can be better and cheaper, M2 SSD is not necessary, regular SSD suffices. With same money, get coffee lake!

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor ($399.89 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($88.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - Z370 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($111.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($148.55 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($169.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card ($399.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($78.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $1478.15
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-11 22:21 EDT-0400

vapour · Oct 11, 2017

Your build:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($319.88 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($99.99 @ Corsair)
Motherboard: Asus - STRIX Z270-E GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($162.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($169.00 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card ($429.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($93.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1535.69
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-11 22:28 EDT-0400

4745454b · Oct 11, 2017

Using the list vapour provide, thank you, I'd make the following changes. Cheaper cooler. ~$100 on the CPU cooler? I'm sure there is nearly as good with a price point no higher than $50-60. Cheaper board. While you don't have a super expensive one, what does this $180 board get you that isn't found on a $100-140? These two moves along save you$80-$100 depending on what you finally pick. Also as shown above you can shave $10-$20 off of the ram, drives, etc. Finally you don't really need a 750W PSU.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/sMM323/evga-supernova-g3-550w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-220-g3-0550

This is less than $70, and the fully modular G3 should serve you well.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/gYMFf7/seasonic-power-supply-s12g550

If you want to save lots of money and go super cheap, the Seasonic S12G can work. It's older and not very fancy, but it can get the job done. And at less than $50 it will save lots of money.

richiestang_78 · Oct 11, 2017

Thanks. But one thing I should have added was that I have an Amazon center in my state sadly so there's going to be a 8% sales tax so price will be adjusted for that.

I was also looking the new 8th gen Intels but I have a feeling they will be out of stock for a long while to come and rather not wait a couple months to get building.

As far as the PSU I used the newegg powercalculator with two 1070s for future SLI and it had me at like 630 so I figured a 750 to be safe.

4745454b · Oct 11, 2017

From what I've seen the 8700 isn't really faster than the 7700 in gaming. If you can't find it, or don't want to wait, there is no shame in getting the 7700k. As for PSU calculators they have to take into account the junk PSUs that exist in the market. If they said the real load, people would buy a junk PSU and then be mad at the calculator. Because of this, EVERY calculator over estimates the draw. A sub 100W CPU and a ~175W GPU depending on model isn't going to draw 600W+. It just isn't possible. You are looking at a gaming load of ~300W, which a QUALITY 550W can handle just fine.

vapour · Oct 11, 2017

Then to save you money, get this instead, will do just fine:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($194.46 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($55.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($156.34 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card ($429.98 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($68.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1130.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-11 23:38 EDT-0400

vapour · Oct 11, 2017

Gaming performance with Ryzen 1600 + GTX 1070:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ji1V96FE4Us

4745454b · Oct 11, 2017

Still have a PSU in there that's too large, but I know no body will listen.

Technically all of the above builds will work. None of them have junk or horrible parts. What budget are you trying to come in under? $1.5K? $1.2? $1k?

vapour · Oct 11, 2017

4745454b :

Yes, my board does not have SLI, cut it above...

richiestang_78 · Oct 11, 2017

Id like to be closer to 1k then 2k if possible but the 1500 mark is fine. The areas where I need help most is motherboard and cpu. With regards to the motherboard if it has a feature like M.2/wifi/bluetooth that doesn't add much to it I'd rather buy it with them then end up adding to later.

From a lot of the benchmarks of Ryzen and the new 8th gen Intels it seems like the 7700k still holds strong for gaming since developers seem super slow at utilizing all these cores. The i5 8400 seems like a better price per performance against the 7700 then anything else for gaming.

Also decided aginst an SSD for the time being as I have a few HDDs laying around and from what Ive gathered loads times for games sometimes benefit from an SSD but other times its only a couple second difference. I can always switch to one down the road.

4745454b · Oct 12, 2017

IDK. I have an SSD for my OS, and another for my steam folder. Can't say I noticed too much difference for my OS, but I really can see the difference in loading games. Going from memory, what used to take 30-60seconds to load, either a game or a level, now takes 10-15sec. That's a huge difference. It's not like turning on the PC where you can go get a cup of coffee or something like that. When I go to play games, I want to play games. Now. I don't want to wait 1min for loading a game, and then another 45sec loading the level. I can load a game AND the level in less time than it took me to load a game. I know were are talking about only a min or so every time I decide to play. But not having to wait long helps keep my head clear as I go kill things.

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