Is Cryorig H7 too big for Gigabyte GA-Z97-HD3?

consptheory77 · Oct 13, 2017

I just replaced my G3258 with an i5-4690K this morning, and I was set to put in a Cryorig H7, and while PC Part Picker was unsure if it would fit in my Rosewill - BlackHawk ATX Mid Tower Case it's not the case or the memory which seem to be an issue. The brace that holds the heat sink seems to be too large to put onto the motherboard because it is being blocked by the gold part and the three little black squares below it, a problem I had not anticipated. Is there more than one way to fit a brace? The temps already seem very good just with the stock cooler. For some reason, my motherboard automatically overclocked the processor because upon rebooting after installation it's running running 4.2 Ghz @ 1.287 V and it's averaging 35C. Is this even possible or are my software gauges out of whack? If that's the case, do I even need a great big heat sink? And if I do, and I can't use the Cryorig H7, what should I use, besides the standard recommendation of a Hyper 212 EVO?

superninja12 · Oct 13, 2017

It doesn't get blocked, otherwise gigabyte couldnt sell that motherboard.

You have misread the manual, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNF-GHQthro
this video should help you

carefully read, take your time.

consptheory77 · Oct 13, 2017

superninja12 :

Ah, I see. Well, that makes more sense. But then am I going to have to take the desktop apart just to install this heat sink? I do have access to the back of the motherboard from the panel on the other side of the case.

superninja12 · Oct 13, 2017

If you can do it without it, you can do it without it.

otherwise you need to take it a bit apart

consptheory77 · Oct 13, 2017

superninja12 :

Since I just put the stock cooler in today, if I go to replace it with the this Cryorig cooler, should I reapply some thermal paste? It would seem that I should, just a little, but I don't want to have too much, I've heard warnings about having too much paste.

superninja12 · Oct 13, 2017

yes always when you replace the cooler reapply thermal paste, the h7 comes with some good paste.

you can remove the old thermal paste with just paper towel...

consptheory77 · Oct 13, 2017

superninja12 :

So I should remove all the old paste first, even if I just applied it? I can't add just a little dab to what's already there? I already put MX-4 there. Is that better or worse than the CP7 the heat sink comes with?

superninja12 · Oct 13, 2017

mx4 is better than cp7.

no , you should not play with thermal paste unless you want to play with burning a cpu.
Reapply it

Fact: it doesnt matter if its 70 degrees at 100% or 75 degrees at 100% , nothing wrong with cp7.

consptheory77 · Oct 14, 2017

It's only now that I'm pushing this i5 with some video encoding (which doesn't seem to be all that quicker than the G3258, but ok) that I see the difference in temps. I've got four fans in my case, two by the hard drives, one to the left of the CPU, one to the top of the CPU, I've been keeping the one to the top off for a long time because it was noisy, and didn't need it because the G3258 temps were always fine, even overclocked, just with the side fan and the stock cooler. But, now, temps are fine if I just do browsing, but if I do encoding, without that top fan on, the temps start reaching towards 100C, now they're about 78C. So I definitely need the superior heat sink. I was apprehensive about cleaning the CPU because I don't like handling the chip but obviously it must be done. I tried cleaning the paste off the G3258 for practice, used a plastic card to scrape off the excess, then a paper towel and 70% alcohol to wipe off the excess. That seemed to work fine. But given that so far I don't see an improvement in the encoding time, I wonder how the i5 is useful at all - but then, I haven't yet tried the streaming function with Plex (which requires on the fly transcoding) which my G3258 couldn't handle at all.

superninja12 · Oct 14, 2017

consptheory77 :

It's only now that I'm pushing this i5 with some video encoding (which doesn't seem to be all that quicker than the G3258, but ok) that I see the difference in temps. I've got four fans in my case, two by the hard drives, one to the left of the CPU, one to the top of the CPU, I've been keeping the one to the top off for a long time because it was noisy, and didn't need it because the G3258 temps were always fine, even overclocked, just with the side fan and the stock cooler. But, now, temps are fine if I just do browsing, but if I do encoding, without that top fan on, the temps start reaching towards 100C, now they're about 78C. So I definitely need the superior heat sink. I was apprehensive about cleaning the CPU because I don't like handling the chip but obviously it must be done. I tried cleaning the paste off the G3258 for practice, used a plastic card to scrape off the excess, then a paper towel and 70% alcohol to wipe off the excess. That seemed to work fine. But given that so far I don't see an improvement in the encoding time, I wonder how the i5 is useful at all - but then, I haven't yet tried the streaming function with Plex (which requires on the fly transcoding) which my G3258 couldn't handle at all.

thats nonsence.
Im sorry, but a cooler simply wouldnt be on the market if it couldnt handle a cpu.
Thats also for the intel stock cooler.

consptheory77 · Oct 14, 2017

superninja12 :

Of course the stock cooler should cool at stock speed, but remember in the first paragraph I said it was running 4.2 Ghz @ 1.287V

superninja12 · Oct 14, 2017

Ooh i forgot about that well glad it works bud

consptheory77 · Oct 16, 2017

So I put it in today, and temps are 5 to 10 degrees cooler, circa 30C, but it is rather big, I wasn't able to orient it the way I wanted, and I had a hard time getting the cables connected after installing, and my hands are medium-sized.

consptheory77 · Oct 16, 2017

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Question from consptheory77 : "Is Cryorig H7 too big for Gigabyte GA-Z97-HD3?"

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The only way I could position it is with the side fan facing the fan on the back panel, when I intended to position the fan south, facing the GPU. I don't which position was best advisable, but it is cooling by 5 to 10 degrees, around 30C now, I don't know if that is enough to get excited about, or is worth the $25 I paid for it.

consptheory77 · Oct 16, 2017

Thanks for merging it, I didn't know what to do about that, the question posted twice because it wasn't apparent it posted the first time, I got some kind of error message.

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