Should I pick up i7 8700 or i7 8700k?

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I am making a whole new build with a 144hz monitor to play on 1080p and stream (all kind of games, from R6S to The Division). I'm planning to buy the non yet released but will be soon if I'm lucky GTX 1070 ti (if this card haven't launched when I buy the other parts then I'll buy a GTX 1080 instead) and don't have the need to change any part for at least 5 years.

And I'm very confused here - after take into account all Ryzens and Intel processors, I've finally decreased the number of options to just 2. I know that Ryzens are very good for budget builds but apparently not for 144Hz (they doesn't handle high fps very well).

Should I buy the K version or the non-K version of i7 8700? I know that the non-K version runs at 4.3GHz all cores with turbo boost (4.7 if you activate the MCE in mobo but it can cause some instabilities according to most reviews) and the K version can run at 5.2GHz all cores if you're luck or at least at 5.0GHz all cores no problem. That 900MHz difference between the K and non-K version will matter a lot if it's a long time (5 years), and it's worth the extra $80?

Please let me know what you guys think about it. I would like to have some recommendation of mobos (any good mobo that the price does not exceed $160), the only requirement is to have a good integrated audio chip.

Thanks for the help!
 
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I see no obvious issues with the build, though an M.2 PCIe SSD might be worth considering.

This is one of the best models that isn't overkill (like PRO) for most people:https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ZNBrxr/samsung-960-evo-250gb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-mz-v6e250

I'm not sure if the COOLER you chose will handle much of an overclock, but you'll see once you get it what it can handle. You can always replace it later if you feel the need to aim for 5GHz or so.
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MCE instabilities are likely something that can be ironed out with BIOS updates, though it probably applies too much voltage compared to what you can do yourself.

I agree on the i7-8700K if we're just talking the best 1080p performance.

But, if you were asking me about the total BUILD cost that might change, especially if you plan to get a new monitor.

I would rather put money towards a GSYNC monitor so that the issue of the FPS cap isn't as much of an issue. For example, on 144Hz you might need to:

a) VSYNC ON - need to be capable fo 144FPS minimum to avoid added stutter

b) VSYNC OFF - will get screen TEAR though how obvious it is varies
(the higher the Hz vs FPS ratio the less obvious the tear such as 144Hz/50FPS not so bad, but 144Hz/120FPS is worse)

c) Adaptive VSYNC - most people don't know how to use that but it's a nice compromise. force on per-game (manage 3d settings.. ) and aim for about 90% sustained at 144FPS and 10% drops below

The "Half Refresh" variant of that is very useful to. For example, in Diablo 3 maybe get sustained 72FPS with no screen tear as VSYNC is still ON.

but...

With GSYNC all that's not an issue. Just tweak the game for the average settings you want. Should run tear-free, no added lag, no added stutter within the range up to 144FPS (can go above but then you're back to VSYNC OFF... not sure if something like 250FPS VSYNC OFF on 144Hz monitor is better than sustained 140FPS GSYNC..)

SUMMARY:
So rather than just say "yay" or "nay" on the new i7 I'd rather recommend talking about the ENTIRE BUILD and exactly what games you play. If you had a half decent i5/i7 for example I'd put the money towards a monitor with these specs:

GSYNC
2560x1440
IPS
144Hz+

(or 3440x1440 100Hz if you like ultrawide)
 
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My actual system is a 9 years prebuild trash, trash psu (no brand whatsoever), [strike]already broken case[/strike], i5 2300, random trash mobo, 4GB RAM DDR3, no VGA and a 768p monitor, the only good items on my build is my keyboard and mouse (razer naga and corsair strafe keyboard).

So after 9 years I'm planning to take gaming serious and for that I'll need basically to throw all the parts away and buy new ones. This is the PCpartpicker build I've made. So after graphics card, case and monitor it should be less than $1650.
 
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I see no obvious issues with the build, though an M.2 PCIe SSD might be worth considering.

This is one of the best models that isn't overkill (like PRO) for most people:https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ZNBrxr/samsung-960-evo-250gb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-mz-v6e250

I'm not sure if the COOLER you chose will handle much of an overclock, but you'll see once you get it what it can handle. You can always replace it later if you feel the need to aim for 5GHz or so.
 
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