Reaaalllyyy don't want to wait for an 8700k, what about X series?

Carpy2

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Some background:
Hey all. I think I'm beginning to slide towards the "enthusiast-gamer" category over being just a "gamer." My i5-2500k after 7 years of running at 4.7ghz (what a beast, I should frame the thing) is no longer stable over 4.0ghz. I'm hoping to also upgrade to Win 10 at the same time to hop on that dx12 train.

General usage scenarios:
I have 2 monitors and a projector hooked up where I often have multiple windows open of various things, while gaming. For example, chrome on one page, streaming stuff on another, maybe two games open at once sometimes alt-tabbing back and forth between them. I mentioned streaming, but I also like to record, as well as use my computer for lightish video editing and rendering footage off my gopro, or games I recorded, etc. I don't care about 4k gaming, 1080p and 1440p serve me well, but I am about that 144hz life.

Thinking/Rationale:

Because of the higher work load I tend to use now, I've been looking at >4 core processors and the 7800X and 7820X both caught my eye and look like they would be a really fun build. I understand that >4 cores is overkill for games right now, and that fewer, faster, cores will still out perform more, slower, cores for gaming. That's why I mentioned the "enthusiast" part at the beginning.

Then in comes the 8700k... Sounds perfect for what I want, but, you can't get 'em and I hate waiting, especially if the i7 X series chips will be just as good for what I want them for. I understand that the 8700k will be better for gaming, but I don't think the difference will really matter to me, especially coming from a 2500k, or am I not getting that quite right?

Conclusion/Questions:

I know that was long and there isn't really a defined question I'm asking, but I basically just want some input into the X series CPUs and what you guys think it can deliver compared to an 8700k, and if it really is super dumb to buy anything other than an 8700k for my next cpu (please be straight forward and tell me if going X series is a complete waste of time lol). To me I feel like they should be comparable in gaming (especially with an OC), with the 8700k pulling out a bit in gaming, and with the X series pulling slightly ahead for multitasking stuff. But the way people talk about things on the internet make it sound like there's no middle ground. Just either this for gaming, and that for not gaming, period, regardless of the fact that the "not for gaming" cpu will still be a very strong cpu for gaming (I hope that makes sense?).

P.S. I'll just get it out now. I don't know anything about AMD, but I've used Intel my entire life. I have nothing against AMD, but you like what you're used to. I know Ryzen looks tempting, but I'm seriously not interested (and I know how stubborn that sounds. I'm sure AMD makes great products, I have nothing against them).

Thanks all.
 
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For what you describe >4 cores is hardly overkill. But I'd skip the 7820x personally. It costs nearly twice as much, has higher power usage with known thermal issues, and it can't even match the 7700k in terms of gaming performance. The 8700k makes almost no sacrifices in any of those areas compared to a 7700k, for about the same price. And it can reach a higher all core OC than the 7820x. The only advantage the 7820x has is more cores, which would probably only be noticeable when transcoding video, which most people schedule rather than wait around for the job to finish.

Carpy2

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Just thinking out loud...

I guess if I wait for the "best cpu" to come out, I'll be waiting forever. Maybe I should just go X series and buy what I need now. The 8700k coming out won't make the 7820X worse of course... I mean, if you bought a 6700k you'd be upset about the 7700k, just like how people who bought a 7700k are upset about the 8700k. But all three cpus are still awesome cpus to have.
 
For what you describe >4 cores is hardly overkill. But I'd skip the 7820x personally. It costs nearly twice as much, has higher power usage with known thermal issues, and it can't even match the 7700k in terms of gaming performance. The 8700k makes almost no sacrifices in any of those areas compared to a 7700k, for about the same price. And it can reach a higher all core OC than the 7820x. The only advantage the 7820x has is more cores, which would probably only be noticeable when transcoding video, which most people schedule rather than wait around for the job to finish.
 
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lonewoofe

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I have the 7820X running with a 1080 ti and blaze thru games as well as just about anything else. The power consumption is not that bad unless you run your system 24 7 and are constantly running apps on it. It is a good choice and the extra PCI lanes are a plus.
It is very snappy. I am satisfied as I don't just play games but when I do I get very good frame rates.
I use a Kraken AIO and an MSI 1080 ti Sea Hawk X water cooled GPU. No thermal issues at all.

The 8700K is a nice chip but if you don't want to wait, you can't go wrong with the 7820X