What to upgrade too? Ryzen vs Coffeelake?

gadenp

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Hi All,
Currently have a 6yrs old 2500k (sorry is not a 2700k saw wrong), that I can no longer OC (lazy and getting harder to get stable clocks).

Earlier this year I upgraded to a 4k tv monitor and the Nvidia 1080 gfx.

But noticing now that games even at lower gfx settings are starting to lag noticeably. I know that the 1080 cannot fully power the 4k tv, but can the low fps also be due to the CPU?

Should I upgrade my CPU? And should I go with AMD or Intel, if I do not want to build another PC for another 5 years. And I want to go VR.

Would Coffeelake i8700(k) be good enough to last 5 years. Or will the ability to upgrade only the CPU that the Ryzen line has be better?

I am extremely pissed with Intel and their paper launch of Coffeelake but I am trying to see pass that to what is best for the next 5 years and 4k.
 
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If you where doing 1080p I would say get the i7 8700k. However the cpus are much closer together fps wise at 2 and 4 k. Since your doing 4k I would say go with a Ryzen 8 core. A lot of people are buying the R7 1700 and overclocking it to near R7 1800x speeds. More cores = more you can do.

urbancamper

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If you where doing 1080p I would say get the i7 8700k. However the cpus are much closer together fps wise at 2 and 4 k. Since your doing 4k I would say go with a Ryzen 8 core. A lot of people are buying the R7 1700 and overclocking it to near R7 1800x speeds. More cores = more you can do.
 
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gadenp

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Yupe I know I I need a 1080ti, which would be my next upgrade after my new PC / CPU. For example Grim Dawn at 4k and 2k both give me 40fps.

Also some games like Elder Scroll there get a noticeable difference in fps and general lagging if I put my CPU cores at priority high. FPS can go from 30 to 50 in Elder Scroll. Also 2k and 4k gaming also seems to have little effects of lag and high cpu loads (has effects on fps).

But more then anything else, I am not going to upgrade my gfx first. It is definitely going to be my CPU and RAM. Waiting for next gen 4k gfx. Unless really CPU and RAM has no difference what so ever in 4k gaming at all and multitasking at all.

So at 4k, Intel and AMD has near no noticeable difference? If so will lean towards AMD, because competition is great.

My PC is about 5 years old plus: (only change gfx often)
CPU 2500k @3.3Ghz
16GB @ 666MHz (9-9-9-24)
Asustek P8P67 Pro
Samsung 830 SSD 512GB
External DAC
Zotac Nvidia 1080
 

King_V

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Yeah, at 4k, the video card is the one doing the work, and the load on the CPU doesn't actually rise much just from a change in resolution, at least from what I've learned on the message boards here.

I'm of mixed feelings on your plan. Your other hardware is dated, but still generally holds up reasonably well overall. On the other hand, the 1080 CAN manage 4k, just not averaging 60fps, though I imagine turning down the details will help - and may not bother you visually all that much (for some of the settings) given the PPI of 4k monitors.