Should I upgrade from an I3-6100 to I3-8100 with a RX470?

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I would like to know if it's worth it upgrading.

Also, would I need to buy a new Motherboard? I currently have Asus B150M Pro-Gaming
 
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As pointed out by many others, going to the i3-8100 will require a Coffee Lake-compatible motherboard. Right now, that means you would have to get a Z370 motherboard...which is meant for overclocking (something the i3-8100 cannot do).

But, let's look at those options:

    ■ Get the i3-8100 & a Z370 motherboard. This is doable...but as mentioned, you're paying for an overclockable motherboard when the CPU can't be OC'd. I guess the price isn't too bad, but with the cheapest mATX Z370 motherboard (ASRock Z370M Pro4) you're still looking at about $240 USD...
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Coffee Lake CPU cores are essentially the same as Kaby Lake CPU cores, which really didn't bring much in terms of actual improvement over Sky Lake CPU cores. You just get more real cores on a Coffee Lake CPU.

Since you would have to upgrade your platform to be able to install a Coffee Lake CPU, and you're really only planning to drop in the bottom model CPU, having 4 real CPU cores on it, you might as well just look at i5 or i7 CPUs for your current platform. You'll get better performance, and for a lower price.
 
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with RX 470, u're probably playing at high settings on 1080p on most titles
tbh, the i3 is still good enough, since games todays still uses up to 4 cores anyway... the i3 can still handle another 1-3 years at most imo

if u want a decent upgrade, i would suggest the coffelake i5 / Ryzen R5 instead, or at very least, the i3 8350k, since going from 2c/4t to 4c/4t won't yield as much difference as the i5 / R5 [although game does love real cores rather than hyperthreading, it's not worth it considering the price u had to pay for those new parts, especially with the Z370 mobo, but at very least the i3 8350k is unlocked so u can OC it]

with i3 8350k, u can OC it which means it should perform as good as i5 7600k [which is great enough for games these days] with the cost of less lifespan (since the trend of 4 core already shifting)
with i5 (preferably 8600k) / the R5 however, u're getting 6 core at very least, they perform exceptionally well, and will last much longer because of their extra core count, also, as games starting to utilize multithreading, those CPU will start to show their significant improvement over the 4 cores CPUs :)

reminder:
Coffelake needs the new mobo (Z370 is the only series available right now)
Ryzen needs AM4 socket mobo (B350 / X370, B350 had better price/features for normal user imo)
 
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Yes > No > Maybe

Yes - Definitely get rid of your 2 core i3-6100.

No - Do not replace it with an i3-8100.
#1 - That is not much of an upgrade
#2 - Most modern games require a 4 core i5 minimum. Like an i5-6600 or 7600.

Maybe - A new upgraded motherboard would let you get an overclocking CPU. One of the i5-8xxx K series.

 
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tbh, the NO part is pretty contradicting
i3 8100 is a 4c/4t CPU u know... so it is in a sense, on par with the i5 6600 / 7600
 
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GPU: RX 470 4gb
CPU: I3-6100
RAM: 8GB
Motherboard: Asus b150m Pro Gaming
Hard Disk: Seagate 1TB

I don't want to change my current specs, I just would like a cpu upgrade. I live in Portugal. I play GTA V, Warframe, Overwatch, Cs:GO and I also planned to buy AC Origins. I prefer 60fps and I don't mind if the settings, are low,medium, high,ultra although I would always prefer medium-high.
 
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Would, a i5-7400 be a good upgrade?
 
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As pointed out by many others, going to the i3-8100 will require a Coffee Lake-compatible motherboard. Right now, that means you would have to get a Z370 motherboard...which is meant for overclocking (something the i3-8100 cannot do).

But, let's look at those options:

    ■ Get the i3-8100 & a Z370 motherboard. This is doable...but as mentioned, you're paying for an overclockable motherboard when the CPU can't be OC'd. I guess the price isn't too bad, but with the cheapest mATX Z370 motherboard (ASRock Z370M Pro4) you're still looking at about $240 USD (https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Y6vnPs).
    ■ Wait for a B- or H-series motherboard to be released. This is the best choice if you want to save money on a Coffee Lake build. However...you're looking at waiting a number of months (possibly up to 6) before those boards become available. If you're having issues now, waiting isn't going to do you a lot of good.
    ■ Go with a Kaby Lake (or even Skylake) CPU instead. This is the best choice for an immediate upgrade. Your motherboard can obviously handle Skylake CPUs quite handily, but with a BIOS upgrade -- version 0601 -- you can also take Kaby Lake CPUs (https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/B150M-PRO-GAMING/HelpDesk_CPU/). Note that there are a number of Skylake & Kaby Lake Core i5 & i7 CPUs that will match or exceed the i3-8100's performance; unlike prior Core i3 CPUs, the i3-8100 does not use HyperThreading, but is an actual 4C/4T CPU (https://ark.intel.com/products/126688). However, it not only can't be OC'd, it has no Turbo capability, so it's stuck at 3.6GHz. For $210 USD (a little cheaper than the i3-8100 build above), you could replace your existing i3-6100 with the i5-7600 (https://pcpartpicker.com/products/cpu/#f=75,73&s=12,13&sort=price&page=1): 3.5GHz base, 3.8-4.1GHz Turbo depending on how many cores are in use, & it's also a 4C/4T CPU. You could even go with the 7600K for $221 USD; although you can't OC it on your board, it's slightly faster (3.8GHz base, 3.9-4.2GHz Turbo). Or, if you can afford the $289 USD, you could get the 4C/8T i7-7700 (3.6GHz base, 4.0-4.2GHz Turbo).
 
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If I go, with a Kaby/Sky Lake, how many years, would It take to upgrade again? Also how much would be the FPS increase?
 
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tbh, the NO part is pretty contradicting
i3 8100 is a 4c/4t CPU u know... so it is in a sense, on par with the i5 6600 / 7600[/quotemsg]

Sorry I was unclear.
You are right about the new i3's are 4 core CPU's. My mistake.
I meant NO as in an 8100 would not fit into his existing motherboard. I think, I'm no genius.
It probably is a good upgrade.

 
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i would suggest the i7 7700 more the longest lifespan and "futureproofing" possible, since that's the best CPU your mobo can utilize [u can't OC with that mobo anyway]
why i7? hyperthreading will help in the future, especially with the 4 core trends starting to shift, more apps/games will start to utilize those extra thread :) which means ur platform can last longer

as i said above:
coffelake needs Z370
Ryzen needs B350 / X370
 
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don't sweat it, we all ever-learning here XD
 
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Same amount of years if you go with a Coffee Lake CPU. All three architectures are so similar in performance per core, longevity will be based mostly on what tiered model you buy. You don't upgrade based on a time schedule, you upgrade when you are no longer satisfied with the level of performance you're receiving from your equipment.

If you want the highest longevity for your system, buy the highest tiered CPU model that your motherboard supports.

Your FPS increase isn't going to be significant, unless your current CPU is severely limiting your graphics card, which is maybe middle of the road at best. If you want significantly higher FPS, also look into a GPU upgrade.
 
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