Is my power supply enough???

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Hi all, im making this post to be safe so i dont end up with problems later. I'm currently working on a budget build mainly oriented towards gaming. I'll have a full parts list below. The problem is stemming from my GPU. Originally i was just going to get the standard 1050Ti from EVGA, 75w, no problem. That is until i noticed their FTW edition was on sale for a mere $169.99 ($149.99 after mail in rebate.) on newegg, and i cant pass that up, only problem is that it uses up to 120w. My current power supply is EVGAs 450 BT (ill have a link below to it). To keep it short, will upgrading from the standard 75w 1050Ti to the 120w FTW edition be too much for my power supply when everything else is taken into account. Any help would be appreciated

Power Supply: https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=100-BT-0450-K1
GPU: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16814487294

CPU: Ryzen 3 1200 (will be overclocked from 3.1ghz to 3.6 - 3.8ghz)

Motherboard: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157763&ignorebbr=1&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker,%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

Memory: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232241&ignorebbr=1&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker,%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

Storage: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236339&ignorebbr=1&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker,%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

Monitor: https://www.amazon.com/Viewsonic-VX2453MH-LED-24-Inch-Ultra-thin-Widescreen/dp/B004LXK8LI

As for cooling, my case came with 3 120mm fans preinstalled and as for CPU cooling im going to be using the stock cooler that came with it (i've heard the wraith coolers are pretty decent).

Any help would be much appreciated.

 
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While you certainly don't NEED 520w, all of the worthwhile power supplies in the 350-520w range are similar in price, and the Seasonic is the better of all of them, so while you might not NEED this much power, it certainly can't hurt, isn't terribly overkill as the 1050ti calls for a 350w unit factoring in the rest of the system's power draw and it also leaves you room to make upgrades later without having to buy a new, larger, power supply again when you do so.

It also has at least a bronze efficiency rating, which none of the other, lower powered units that are of a quality even worth considering in this price range, do.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 520W...

kinnybean

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The problem now is i already have the power supply i listed and it is currently resting peacefully in the case :p
Would it at least suffice for now?
 


Also, since your willing to spend $170 on a graphics card can't you fork out a little more to procure a GTX1060? If you invest the extra $30 you can get this::

EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3GB

According to UserBenchmark there is a huge increase in performance by at least +74%
 

kinnybean

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you guys have given me much much relief, thank you both very much and for the quick responses too!

 
While you certainly don't NEED 520w, all of the worthwhile power supplies in the 350-520w range are similar in price, and the Seasonic is the better of all of them, so while you might not NEED this much power, it certainly can't hurt, isn't terribly overkill as the 1050ti calls for a 350w unit factoring in the rest of the system's power draw and it also leaves you room to make upgrades later without having to buy a new, larger, power supply again when you do so.

It also has at least a bronze efficiency rating, which none of the other, lower powered units that are of a quality even worth considering in this price range, do.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($38.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $38.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-18 23:38 EDT-0400
 
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I don't see any source showing 120W power draw - in fact I highly highly doubt it's that high. Maybe 100W, but 120W is the equivalent of a GTX 1060.

Not that it matters anyway sionce under gaming load your system should be below 175W. Just use the PSU you have now.

Edit: Just realized you don't already own the PSU. The EVGA 450BT is crappy. Get the Corsair CX450 https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139201&cm_re=corsair_cx_450-_-17-139-201-_-Product - it's higher quality than the S12ii. More modern design, better protection circuitry, equal warranty.
 
Plus, that card potentially uses 75w slot power plus 75w 6pin connector, so the potential for up to 150w draw exists, making it's specified 120w listing likely to be a lot more accurate than 100w or less. And if he overclocks it, numbers just go up from there.
 


Always thought that the wattage power draw specified by components are way overrated. Even at 100% load I doubt the power draw will be more than 50 ~ 75%
 
Well, that's certainly your right to have and express your opinion. It doesn't seem to based on any known facts regarding what actual power consumption is vs manufacturers recommendations, but Ok.

The fact is that all the other EVGA 1050TI cards show a max 75w TDP excep that one, which DOES show a 120w TDP. Manufacturers don't just put those numbers there for "pretty", and unlike the power supply recommendation charts at places like MSI and RealHardTechX, the numbers aren't generally inflated to account for weak power supplies. If it says 120w, there is a reason for it.

It may not generally draw that much power under most conditions, but considering just the six pin PCIe connector and the 120w spec, I'd say it's a good idea to assume the number is acurate and play to the side of caution rather than find out at some point your assumption was inaccurate.