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Hey guys!

First off, this isn't one of those threads where I ask which is better - AMD or Intel.

I might be building a new PC soon, and need help on choosing between some components.

This was my original plan:

CPU: i7 7700K
COOLER: Cooler Master, Hyper 212
MOBO: Gigabyte Main Board Desktop INTEL H110
RAM: Corsair DDR4 8GB 2400MHz Vengeance LPX
PSU: Corsair VS450 PSU, 450W
GPU: Asus STRIX-GTX1060-O6G-GAMING

Now, since my budget is limited, I have to be careful with which components I choose, because they will have to serve me for the next couple of years.

I enjoy gaming, however, I also enjoy programming, and editing videos, which includes rendering.

Do you guys think it would be better to go with something like this:
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600X
GPU: ZOTAC GeForce® GTX 1070 AMP Core Edition

Which build would suit my needs better?
Will the Ryzen do the job? Is it worth getting the 1070 and a weaker CPU?

I'd love to hear your thoughts :)
Thanks!
 
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Here's a sample build for €1030 (Ryzen 5 1600 + 16GB 3200MHz + SSD + HDD + GTX 1060 + 520W PSU):

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor (€198.95 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: MSI - B350 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard (€95.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (€152.56 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Crucial - MX300 275GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (€90.26 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€47.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1060...
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If you don't consider cost, coffee lake I7-8700k is the one. If considering cost, different story. Ryzen 1600/1700 will be more cost effective for you purpose. For GPU, it depends on what resolution you want to game. 1080p -> I7 is the best, 2k+, with GTX 1070, diff between Ryzen and coffee lake will be reduced. My questions for you below:

1. Total budget? Living in US?
2. Do you have monitors? If so, what resolution/Hz? If need new one, what resolution/Hz you want to buy?
3. Ratio of gaming/programing/rendering ?
 
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My budget is about 1050 euros. Can't go above unfortunately.I have 2 monitors, 1 is a 1080p one with 60 Hz and the other one is 720p with 60 Hz. I can't really afford a new monitor tbh. I would say I game 50% of the time, program 30% and render 20% of my time on the PC. I do not live in the US. Europe to be precise.

As for 13thmonkey:
Interesting, I'll take that into consideration :)
 
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The Ryzen 5 1600 (non-X) would be better in price/performance, esp. considering gaming PLUS editing/rendering, due to its 6-core/12-thread (vs 4C/8T of i7-7700K). The 1600 already includes a beefy stock cooler (lessen additional costs for an aftermarket cooler) and is also overclockable (similar to the X version) on a B350-chipset or X370-chipset AM4 motherboard.

Intel i7-7700K (and the new Coffee Lake i5s and i7s) are still better in terms of pure gaming performance though - but costs a lot, and thus, would have a lower price/performance ratio compared to the suggested Ryzen 5 1600 (non-X).

As for the GPU, that depends on what games you play, at what settings, at what resolution, and at what fps (frames per second) is acceptable to you. Typically (in most games), the GTX 1060-6GB is considered a top-of-the-line GPU for 1080p/60Hz at high-ultra settings. The GTX 1070 is also ideal for 1080p/60Hz for AAA games and also can do 1440p/60Hz high-ultra (depends on games).

As for the PSU, you should invest on a better quality and more reliable model than the VS series of Corsair (it's a budget PSU and mediocre in quality). Consider getting either the Corsair CX450M (for a GTX 1060 GPU) or the Corsair CX550M (for a GTX 1070 GPU) both of which are significantly better than the VS series. Other better quality models, depending on your budget are the Corsair RM550x or EVGA SuperNova G2 550. You can also consider the Seasonic M12II-520 EVO if budget is tight.

As for the RAM, consider getting a higher-speed (3200MHz) rather than the 2400MHz, as Ryzen benefits from having faster RAM. A 2 x 8GB kit (total of 16GB) is the sweet-spot/recommended for the purpose you will use your PC.
 
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^ personally I'd go up to above 550, for the next upgrade, it should only cost a little more, but be worth it, considering that vega is now running well into the 200W++ territory. Prior to Vega and if that trend had continued i'd agree with 550 being plenty for any single card, but not any more.
 
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Here's a sample build for €1030 (Ryzen 5 1600 + 16GB 3200MHz + SSD + HDD + GTX 1060 + 520W PSU):

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor (€198.95 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: MSI - B350 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard (€95.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (€152.56 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Crucial - MX300 275GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (€90.26 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€47.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB AMP! Edition Video Card (€299.00 @ Caseking)
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo Pro M ATX Mid Tower Case (€79.90 @ Caseking)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (€66.87 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €1030.53
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-20 09:51 CEST+0200
 
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Thank you very much for this!
It looks amazing for the price.

So, just to check one last time,
this should be enough for everything I will be using it for?
 
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You're welcome. Yes, the parts above should suffice for what you intend to do in your PC (i.e., 50% gaming at 1080p and 50% work/edit/rendering). Considering the limited budget you have, the suggested parts would have great price/performance as you get a top-of-the-line GPU for 1080p, a decent PSU (with enough juice to upgrade to a GTX 1070 if your budget permits), 16GB RAM on dual-channel speed at 3200MHz, a 6C/12T overclockable CPU on a B350-chipset mobo, a decent beefy CPU cooler included in the box, a solid case with good airflow and cable management, and 275GB SSD + 1TB HDD (use the SSD for OS drive and programs/apps for faster boot and loading times, and use the high-capacity HDD for all your games and general storage).

Additionally, the Ryzen line of CPUs/Mobos would have better longevity than Intel's sockets (as Ryzen AM4-socket mobos was intended to support up-and-coming CPUs for several years, compared to Intel's which only has a "limited time" and a faster rate of changing sockets/mobos that may not be compatible with future CPUs).
 
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That sounds amazing!
I guess Ill be building something like this then :)
Thanks, once again, really appreciate it!
Have a great day!
 
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