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loneremix

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I have a couple of questions with my first build. Do I need a m.2?
Basically what storage do I need? And another question what is a good cpu cooler around 100 that is very trusted and not water cooling.
And do I need to buy some fans for my build? And how many and what brand?
Here is my first build setup. Let me know what to get and if there's anything wrong. Thanks

Case
NZXT S340 Elite Black [Tempered Glass]

Processor
Intel Core I7-7700K 4.2GHz (Quad Core)

CPU Cooling
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Thermal Compound
Standard Thermal Compound

Motherboard
ASUS ROG Maximus IX Code LGA1151 DDR4 DP HDMI M.2 Z270 ATX Motherboard with onboard AC Wifi and USB 3.1

Memory
G.Skill Trident Z 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 3000Mhz [RGB]

M.2 Storage
SAMSUNG 960 EVO M.2 NVMe 250GB

Primary Hard Drive
Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD

Secondary Hard Drive
1TB

Graphics Card
EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 FTW GAMING ACX
3.0 8GB

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You can save yourself some cash then. Instead of a GTX1080, grab a GTX1060 6GB for 60Hz, or a GTX1070 for faster frame rates at ultra detail on AAA titles. At the level of CS:GO, even a GTX1050 would work quite well at 1080p 60Hz. the 1080 is overkill for 1080p, but comes in handy on ultra detail @ 1440p and high refresh rates.
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feelinfroggy777

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You don't need a M.2 SSD. While I do like the 960 EVO and their performance is very good. In real world application you will not see much of a big difference between the 850 EVO or 960 EVO except in benchmarks. The M.2 are nice for cable management as they do not require any cables.

As for good air coolers, Noctua is the Lexus of air coolers and you cant go wrong this one:

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608045

And as for fans, I have the corsair ml 140mm pro. They are both static pressure and air flow fans. They are very quiet. I like them a lot but they are expensive, you can save some money by not getting the LED version if you don't want to go that route. You cant go wrong with Noctua fans either. They are very quite and perform very well.

http://www.corsair.com/en-us/ml140-pro-led-red-140mm-premium-magnetic-levitation-fan

 
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I don't know what PSU is and the coffee lake I haven't been able to find any for a decent price so if you could link one that would help alot. And thanks for fans and m2 that helped alot
 
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It isn't mandatory to have the NVMe SSD. For the most part, using the other chosen SSD (SATA model) will work just as fine, and even that can be truly optional. What isn't optional is at least one of the storage devices mentioned, so you can run the OS.

With that said... is it nice and quick to have at least one SSD for the boot drive? Most certainly. It will spoil you on boot times. If you want to keep NVMe, you absolutely need M.2. For average use, the M.2 drive may not be noticeably faster than the 850 EVO, so in itself, it isn't , needed.

Air coolers I'd look at:
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/4vzv6h,xFw323,vCL7YJ,ffKhP6/

Noctua - NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler
CRYORIG - R1 Ultimate 76.0 CFM CPU Cooler
Deepcool - ASSASSIN II 70.1 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler
Scythe - FUMA Rev.B 79.0 CFM CPU Cooler

One other one worth looking at would be
Phanteks - PH-TC14PE_BK 78.1 CFM CPU Cooler

Standard thermal compound probably isn't needed. All coolers come with some compound with them, and the ones listed above have better than standard compound. (not necessarily the premium stuff though)

Extra fans are optional. If you do get them, look for the largest supported by the case, and up to the amount of fan mounts in the case. For case fans air-flow is more important than static pressure. Your case is a decent case that can get away without extra fans on the non tempered-glass model, but they don't hurt if they are added, and not a bad idea on any tempered-glass cases. Corsair, NZXT, Noctua, Phanteks, Cryorig, and even CoolerMaster have some good fans (and some not so good ones) to choose from.

Ultimately, this is your build. You have the final say.
 
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Budget Coffee Lake build:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor ($199.89 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock - Z370 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($111.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($156.34 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($97.14 @ B&H)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($45.69 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB FTW Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card ($564.98 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT - S340 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($63.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1319.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-25 13:51 EDT-0400
 
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Yeah, Coffee lake is hard to come by right now outside of pre-built systems. To go with Coffee-Lake you'd need a Z370 motherboard as well. They won't work with any other chipset outside of the Intel 300 series (and nothing else will work with those boards.) If you need this today, don't worry about waiting, just buy what you already chose.

PSUs are the heart of a PC, they provide power to all the other internal parts. DON'T GO CHEAP. Nothing worse than buying that Aerocool (or insert other cheap brand here) and having it eat your parts for lunch just before it dies. Seasonic, Silverstone, Corsair, eVGA, XFX: all have good to excellent PSUs to choose from (and some not so good.) Same goes with Rosewill (although there are more on the avoid list than the others.) You can probably spend close to $100 USD for one of these good PSUs in the 550-750W range and have room to overclock too.

 
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How much of a difference does coffee lake do compared to my setup. I'm looking to play rust, csgo, Pubg and games like that so how much of a difference will it do,im not looking to over clock or anything
 
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Some of the games may see some improvement. Some probably won't show noticeable differences (i.e. CS:GO). It depends on how fast its running right now anyway.

BTW: what resolutions to you plan on playing at?
 
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For gaming, the 7700k will tie the 8700k in the vast majority of games. But the 8700k will be superior in multithreaded applications. Most games rely on single threaded performance, so there won’t be much of a drop off.

However, if you like to stream or perform any workstation type task, the 8700k is a much better option. But it just came out and availability is limited, which means inflated pricing. So if you are on a budget and want the system today, you may want to look at the 7700k. There should be some pretty good deals on the 7700k moving forward with the release on the 8700k.
 
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You can save yourself some cash then. Instead of a GTX1080, grab a GTX1060 6GB for 60Hz, or a GTX1070 for faster frame rates at ultra detail on AAA titles. At the level of CS:GO, even a GTX1050 would work quite well at 1080p 60Hz. the 1080 is overkill for 1080p, but comes in handy on ultra detail @ 1440p and high refresh rates.
 
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Thanks for all the help guys so far, another question do cases come with factory fans already and if so should I get better ones and how many fans would you recommend to have? I have seen some setups with like 7 fans.
 
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Most cases come with at least one fan. Some will come with five or six. Typically, case fans included aren't top of the line and depending on manufacturer, can be near the bottom end of the quality spectrum. Most well known manufacturers will go cheap with included case fans, but the cheaper ones really go cheap. Most cases, case fans will last a couple of years, maybe more. You can replace factory fans, and guarantee the quality of fan you get without issue, or just supplement them. Either works. The glass panel cases suggest you go ahead and get the extra fans as testing shows they get warm and stay that way. The exact amount of fans supported are usually in the specs for the case.
 
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