1000$ budget build for a friend. Any suggestions?

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Hello there user, i see that i've seeked your attention.

So, there is this one friend I have and he wants to get into pc gaming and has 1000$ to spend on his brand new rig and i would love to hear suggestions from someone who has a clue at what he / she is doing. He had gone on pcpartpicker.com and came up with a build on his own (He has no clue what hes doing).

I don't know how well the pc would perform in this generation but i know for sure its going to be weak. I'm not a genius or very tech savy so i really could just be wrong and thats why i have visited the forums for help and suggestions. I dont even know if the build is compatible or not, mainly because i haven't given it a good look yet. I have built my own budget gaming pc but that too i went on the forums for help for. I dont think anyone would want to hear my story ;-;

Well, here is his build anyways. As I said earlier, he does not know what hes doing. By the looks of things, he has gone for an AMD system and if an intel system would perform better then i would like to know with a reply.


P.s He would be using the pc for gaming at general 1080p gaming. I'm going to have to assume its 1080 because thats the monitor he owns at the moment.

The build he came up with

Processor - AMD FX-4300 - 97$
Motherboard - Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3 - 104$
RAM - Kingston KTA-MB1600L/8G 8 GB DDR3 - 50$
PSU - Cooler Master Thunder 500 500W - 50$
Cabinet - Cooler Master HAF 912 Combat - 100$
Hard Drive - WD Caviar Green WD10EZRX 1 TB - 60$
Optical Drive - Samsung SH-224BB - 20$
SSD - Kingston SSDNow V100 SV100S2/64G 64 GB - 60$
Graphic Card - ZOTAC GTX660 2 GB DDR5 - 221$
Sound Card - Zebronics SC-6CH - 7$
Cabinet Cooler - Cooler Master XtraFlo Cooler - 10$
Processor Cooler - Cooler Master Vortex 211P Cooler - 10$

Total rounds about to 1000$

If anyone knows what they are doing then please leave suggestions on how this build could improve. If an intel system is better then please let me know.

The forums have helped me complete my build and leave me satisfied. I hope the same is done to my friend. thank you for reading if not helping. :)



 
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What i meant with "Overclocking" is that the base speed of the 8400 is 2.8ghz ,but it can be set to run max turbo on all cores which is 4ghz,which in it's own right is a kind of overclocking since it "only" should do 3.8 at all cores. It also means the 8400 won't do higher than 4ghz,which the i5 8600K can,but at this speed it's very fast and an imo better value for mony since the leftover can be use for a better ssd,cpu cooler,psu,gpu or case,whatever better to you liking.
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i3-8350K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.89 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock - Z370 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($111.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: PNY - Anarchy 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($139.99 @ Best Buy)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($97.03 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($45.69 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB SC GAMING Video Card ($264.98 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($64.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Corsair - CSM 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $994.53
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-27 18:55 EDT-0400
 
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Here is a 1k build worth the price
PCPartPicker part list /
CPU: Intel - Core i5-7600K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($220.49 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-Z270P-D3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($98.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Patriot - Viper Elite 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($149.99 @ B&H)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB OCV1 Video Card ($259.99 @ B&H)
Case: Fractal Design - Define R5 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Platinum 550W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($88.89 @ Newegg)
Total: $978.22
 
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i3-8350k is hard to find in stock and requires a cooler. For just 1080p, a 1300x with stock cooler would suffice, and may as well get a 1070 or save some money and step down to a 1060 6GB.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 1300X 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($127.39 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: PNY - Anarchy 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($139.99 @ Best Buy)
Storage: SK hynix - SL308 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($78.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($45.69 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card ($394.98 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT - S340 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($48.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $956.01
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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True, the 1070 will offset the CPU while the AM4 platform will be here to stay which means it will be easier for you to change for a better CPU later on.
 
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As i mentioned earlier. He has no clue what he is doing.
 
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Okay, so if my friend was to get this system then in the future what are his upgrade choices?
 
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So is the coffeelake something worth going after right now? because i was thinking its better to wait for more support for the 8th gen series. like ive heard cheaper motherboards will be getting released in a while which support the 8th gen coffeelake processors. Let me know if i'm wrong

 
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Wouldn't the other ryzen system perform better than this because of that 1070?
 
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A 1070 system will out preform a 1060 based system in FPS. However this system is otherwise constructed of better parts. Better CPU, a motherboard which is overclocking friendly, faster ram, a better case, power supply, and across the board better parts. In my opinion a better computer which will put up nearly the same performance from its video card so long as the gaming is 1080p/60hz. Also it will probably remain fairly relevant in a year or two when the video card is replaced.
 
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor ($199.89 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI - Z370-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($148.55 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Storage: Seagate - FireCuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive ($99.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB SC GAMING Video Card ($264.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Zalman - Z3 ATX Mid Tower Case ($35.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($36.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On - iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer ($10.99 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Total: $917.23
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-28 13:37 EDT-0400

Used a hybrid hard drive for simplicity to allow higher storage over SSD, I found that for the non tech savy it may become a issue if the primary drive is small and they start to run out of space as everything defaults to wanting to load on C: they may be curious as to whats going on or get frustrated at having to put things on the slower hard drive. This should alleviate that while still providing a good middle ground between HDD and SSD.

Beyond that basic this is a basic build that doesn't allow overclocking which I wouldn't venture into for a friends build as it's a recipe for head aches when something goes wrong. And do need an operating system (Windows 10)?
 
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Bro I have no idea, I don't pay too much attention to what is going to be released.
 
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Cheaper "B" or"H" boards although released wil have their restrictions as well. A "Z" board does have the advantage of being able to use higher speed ram,although in this case the lower end boards may be able to use 2666mhz ram, and a kind of overclocking is still doable with making the "stock" cpu run all cores at max turbo.
The 8400 is hard to get right now so using it depends on that more than performance.

Got some ideas of my own of course :). For Intel,

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor ($199.89 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - M9i 48.4 CFM CPU Cooler ($19.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - Z370 GAMING PLUS ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($148.55 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Storage: SK hynix - SL308 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($78.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($45.69 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB AMP! Edition Video Card ($269.99 @ B&H)
Case: Corsair - Graphite Series 230T Black ATX Mid Tower Case ($53.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $996.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-29 09:08 EDT-0400

Can also use AMD,

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1500X 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($169.38 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AB350-GAMING 3 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($85.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($148.55 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Storage: SK hynix - SL308 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($78.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($29.09 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Mini Video Card ($393.88 @ OutletPC)
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($44.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $1000.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-29 09:02 EDT-0400
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($193.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AB350-GAMING 3 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($84.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($148.55 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Storage: SK hynix - SL308 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($78.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Mini Video Card ($393.88 @ OutletPC)
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($44.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $995.27
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-29 09:02 EDT-0400

this latest can also be used with the next for more storage,
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/n28H99/seagate-firecuda-1tb-35-7200rpm-hybrid-internal-hard-drive-st1000dx002
may be wiser,add an ssd later.He can also get more storage (ssd+hdd) and just use the gtx 1060 and be fine for 1080p gaming with decent settings.


Biggest difference is the gpu,AMD builds use the gtx 1070,the Intel the gtx 1060.For most fps will the AMD builds do best.Alas is the Intel cpu the better (again).Nothing wrong with the AMD cpu's btw.
There are some rebate options in these builds not taken into acount so builds can become cheaper if he can use these.

I do think that the small ssd+hdd is the choice,your friend just has to google how to transfer default place of big storage files to the hdd.Keep an eye on where to store what he installs when installing,normally the \C: drive is used,he needs to change that to "other letter/drive" when installing.
 
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Even tho hes not a tech savy person hes smart enough to understand that he wuold have 2 drives. a smaller one and a much larger one. I could explain it to him how he could utilize both efficiently so thats never a problem
 
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I would still go for the ssd + hard drive combo. I could explain to him how he could use them and space out storage. also do you really thinkk thats a good cpu to go for right now?
 
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So, if I were to suggest him this build, what would he be able to upgrade in the future? i mean beside the basic ram, video card and storage
 
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You could upgrade the CPU to an i7 in the future.
 
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Yes. It is an upgrade-able build, which is built out of slightly better than standard parts. His first upgrade is likely to be a second HD to backup stuff to. Everything in that build is upgrade-able. But other than adding a low-cost disk down the road, he is not going to need much in the near term to play at a standard 1080p 60fps.
 
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