GTX 1080/GTX 1060 6gb with freesync monitor 144hz OR rx 580 144hz 1440p freesync

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So yeah,
I want a 1440p gaming monitor but i don't know what to choose.

This are the two monitors:
Gsync:https://pcpartpicker.com/product/XvfmP6/asus-monitor-pg279q

Freesync:https://pcpartpicker.com/product/sqp323/acer-monitor-xf270hu

Personally i like more the acer one but i would like to know what to do:
1.Acer+Rx 580 or r9 fury with freesync
2.Acer+gtx 1080/gtx 1060 6gb no gsync
3.Asus gtx 1080/gtx 1060 6gb Gsync

Games i play:
The Forest 20%
Ark 10%
Minecraft 60%
The long Dark 5%
Planet Coaster 5%
 
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I would say pick your monitor first then base the gpu around that.

The issue here is that at 1080p now there are infact a fair few titles you wont be able to max out with a 580 & still get above 70-80fps.

If you're happy with a 24inch 1080p 144htz screen then pairing the vega56 with it will let you max any game without gpu limitations & will probably be good for 3-4 years of use at that resolution.

Maybe overkill for 1080p now,will last you much much longer timespan wise.

TN is fine for gaming use,you generally lose a little colour accuracy & viewing angles,you tend to gain better response times & less input lag.

Most gaming monitors at TN plain & simple for this reason,its only the last year or so where they've managed to catch up...
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Thank you for answering but does the aoc monitor have bad customer reviews overall on amazon?And isn't the rx vega 56 considered way overpriced?

 
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Ignore amazon reviews , they cover a variety of monitors & a lot of the reviews don't relate to the agon directly.

Independent reviews are very favourable towards the aoc screen , its not the absolute best but far from being bad or average.

Think 8.5 out of 10.

The Vega overpriced ?? Yeah it is by $70-80 just like the gtx 1070.

That is counteracted somewhat by the fact you can get a freesync screen like the aoc agon for $200-300 less than a comparable gsync screen.

My option is purely towards value for money for the total amount spent

The Vega is somewhere between a 1070 & 1080 performance wise , it can be overclocked to very close to 1080 performance if you can fulfil the heavy power requirements when overclocked .

The 1080 is on paper a better buy but the monitor is going to cost you way more if you want gsync

For amd freesync its your only real option , the 580 isn't capable of 1440p 144htz dull stop, & the fury is showing it's limitations now too


 
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So only rx vega 56 and aoc are the best value ones, ok thank you very much!
Last question, i did some research and what i conclude to:
1.Your option
2.Acer monitor + gtx 1080
3.asus +gtx 1080

Which will squeeze max performance and reduce screen tearing the most?
Also should i buy the rx and monitor from amazon uk or com, any difference?
Does overclocking work by it self or you need to enable it somehow?

Thank you very much matt!!!

 
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A gtx 1080 & a gsync screen are your best option performance wise.

To guarantee no screen tear you absolutely need a gsync screen with an nvidia card when you're running a144htz screen

Vice versa with an amd card you absolute want a free sync screen.

Freesync & gsync completely eliminate any possibility of screen tearing.

Which you buy is entirely budget dependant , a 1080 + gsync screen is $300-400 more , it's as simple as that .
 
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Thank you very much, sir!!!
 
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Lastly mixing up amd with gpu, example:acer screen(freesync) and gtx 1080 is the worst?Or is there any benefits or downsides of it?
Sorry to disturb you again.
 
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there is zero benefit using a freesync monitor with an nvidia gpu
 
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So Is it worth the extra 300 bucks or so the g sync verison and gtx 1080 vs Aoc screen and rx vega 56.

 
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that is up to you to decide


you want as much gpu power as possible


for 1440p 144hz you really want a gtx 1080 ti with a gsync monitor and the proper intel setup
 
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The issue here is budget.

The games you listed , minecraft,long dark, planet coaster , fps will not be an issue ,.

Ark & The forest ??

You won't be hitting 120 fps+ on those anyway because they're heavily heavily CPU bound titles .

If you buy an amd card you want a freesync screen
If you buy an nvidia card you want a gsync screen.

That will ensure zero screen tearing & buttery smooth gameplay even when you're at substantially lower fps than the monitors native refresh rate

There are software enabled adaptive syncing options on both cards but it is nowhere near as good as the hardware based gsync/freesync ones .


 
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I won’t be hitting 120 FPS with rx Vega 56, right?

So if I get the Acer XF270HU and Rx Vega 56, I should have no screen tearing and get decent FPS, right?

 
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First of all, you are a great person so thank you for helping me choose a screen as i was confused.Now the PC build with rx vega and Screen is a bit over budget i would say, not that it bothers me at all but here is my PC build that i am planning to get, so i don't mind ascetics that much but i would like to have 16gb of ram for video production and 1Tb of space, so can you help reduce the price by helping me about what's need or not and so on.

PC BUILD:https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HmkcJV

P.S With the keyboard etc it will be around 2000-2100, so can you help me or guide me to to reduce price where possible but not making the PC worse or just adjusting the PC build to go with the Rx Vega 56???

 
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In Cyprus, so only valid way would be buying parts from amazon assembling them by myself or by a technician as i don't that much time or getting pre buildt from amazon.

By the way If i get a 1080p monitor with rx 580 instead of Vega 56 and 1440p, should it be ok to run games with freesync?
DO REALLY TN PANELS SUCK THAT BAD???
I got some choices again...
1.Acer with rx vega 56
2.Other acer screen https://pcpartpicker.com/product/FZJkcf/acer-xf240h-240-144hz-monitor-umfx0aa001 with rx 580
3. This https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hMYWGX/asus-rog-swift-pg258q-245-1920x1080-240hz-monitor-pg258q with 1060 6gb?

The second fits my budget PERFECTLY but i am concerned about the tn panel.
Help me choose by value and budget.
Regards, MagiKrabz.

 
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Both panels are tn anyway & generally that's what you'll get for 100htz+ screens without paying huge amounts of money.

& yes a 580 with a 1080p freesync screen is a good choice.

What about the Vega 56 with that cheaper 1080p 144htz screen you listed above ??that's a combo that will last for 3-4 years settings easily.

The issue I have with the 580 is it's current pricepoint .over here in the UK the Vega is only about £100 (25% ) more
 
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They aren't both TN panels one is IPS and other TN!
1440p (IPS) https://pcpartpicker.com/product/sqp323/acer-monitor-xf270hu
1080p (TN) https://pcpartpicker.com/product/FZJkcf/acer-xf240h-240-144hz-monitor-umfx0aa001


So it's ok if i get the tn panel screen as 24 inches is the best size for me as for my pocket?
So considering above and 1080p as being better,
1. 1080p with rx 580 (shouldn't it be better as i will get lower fps and freesync will take advantage of that?)
2.1080p with rx vega 56
3.1440p with rx vega 56 (bit over budget)
P.S:the prices are on both fine (not overpriced)

And if i take the Rx Vega 56(1080p), will it take advantage of freesync or not as i will probably get higher framerates that 144hz?



 
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I would say pick your monitor first then base the gpu around that.

The issue here is that at 1080p now there are infact a fair few titles you wont be able to max out with a 580 & still get above 70-80fps.

If you're happy with a 24inch 1080p 144htz screen then pairing the vega56 with it will let you max any game without gpu limitations & will probably be good for 3-4 years of use at that resolution.

Maybe overkill for 1080p now,will last you much much longer timespan wise.

TN is fine for gaming use,you generally lose a little colour accuracy & viewing angles,you tend to gain better response times & less input lag.

Most gaming monitors at TN plain & simple for this reason,its only the last year or so where they've managed to catch up with ips technology to allow 100htz+ refresh rates - as you've seen you pay a lot extra for an ips 144htz screen.



 
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