Help Me Decide Which Graphic Card Should I Buy

best15gamer · Nov 2, 2017

Hi,
as the title said, i have a limited knowledge of hardware and i need someone to help me decide what and which i should buy as a new Graphic Card for gaming, cause i am confused of what i should get, especially there're a several versions for only one GPU, i have a list that's available in my country, i hope someone to choose from it and tell me why he chose it if there's no problem of course, if you wonder why i only picked Nvidia's Graphic cards, it's because i had a bad experience with AMD, especially i lost my last GPU because of the heating, which was R9 290X Twin Frozr, for my PC config, i have a decent one, but it will do the job, till i get a new one,
-Asus P8Z68-V PRO
-I5 2500K 3.3Ghz /
-8GB Ram DDR3 1666mhz
Thermaltake Smart SE 730W Bronze.

this is an image of what i've found:
http://www8.0zz0.com/2017/11/02/07/854143730.jpg

PS: if someone has a better suggestion than the ones that i have provided, i hope that he suggest there's no problem i will look maybe i will find.

one more thing, i am a YouTuber, so i will have to record footage while playing games i hope someone consider that, cause when recording you will have minus 10 fps or more, plus i need a graphic card that support 3 monitors thanks in advance. thanks.

lashausupashvili · Nov 2, 2017

It depends on your budget, as I see from your hardware choose you want middle tear graphic card GTX 1060 would be good choice I guess, if you have enough budget you can go for 1070, in upper class like 1080 you should be worried about bottleneck issue.

dontlistentome · Nov 2, 2017

A 1060 for 1080p should make you happy. I think a 1050 Ti is too much of a step down for you. Those older AMD cards did use a lot of power, which means heat can be an issue with them.

As to 'several versions' that's mainly because each company tries to offer cards at different prices. For instance, a company might offer a cheap version, for people who want a 1060 for the lowest possible cost. The company might offer a middle priced version, with better cooling for example, for people who'd like a bit more quality even if it costs a bit more. Then they might also offer an expensive version. This version might have RGB lighting or a much more powerful heatsink/fan cooler or it might be overclocked.

I usually go for the mid priced versions.

best15gamer · Nov 2, 2017

Hi thanks for your answer, i gave the graphic cards that are in the scale of my budget, please check the image, there's a lot of versions for the 1060 i don't know what to pick, plus can you explain "bottleneck issue" thanks

best15gamer · Nov 2, 2017

dontlistentome thanks for your answer, i think my config is good for the GTX 1060 even for the GTX 1080 i guess, as i am planing to change my Machine to new one in the very soon, but for now i am more consider of a Graphic card, i have put a link of an image that has graphic cards that i found in my country available and in a good price for me, i hope you take a look and tell me which one is better thanks in advance.

hellraiser06 · Nov 2, 2017

If you are playing at 1080p 60FPS, a GTX 1060 6GB will do a wonderful job. I am a youtuber too and I have the same card. Check my signature. Shadowplay, the native nVidia tool to record gameplay does not eat up frames. You will be surprised, how less impact recording a game has these days since you can record natively without using any 3rd party apps. Shadowplay even lets you broadcast the games live to Youtube and to Twitch and there is a negligible performance impact. From your screenshot, I would go with the ASUS 1060 6GB that is worth 61500.

Your CPU will be fine to pair with a 1060 6GB but I wont pair it with any card higher than 1070.

best15gamer · Nov 2, 2017

hellraiser06 first thanks for checking the image, second i have some problem with my windows during the installation of Shadowplay, something not right, but will leave that maybe will find a fix for it, can you tell me why did you go with the "asus geforce dual-gtx1060--o6g" since there's:
-GTX 1060 AORUS 6G
-GTX 1060 AORUS XTREME EDITION 9G
-Asus GeForce ROG STRIX GTX 1060 06G
and all the three cards has 3 fans which i thing are good when it comes to heating or even performance (and a little bit more price which it doesn't matter)

hellraiser06 · Nov 2, 2017

I wish I had bought that card, but due to the damn miners, its availability is next to nothing in my country. Every once in a while, it crops up on the shopping websites, but they are usually double the prices. Here, only Zotac is available most of the times at a slightly expensive price than the original, but way cheaper than the ASUS, Gigabyte etc. 1060 doesnt get hot much. You will be fine with any of the ones that you listed above.

Shadowplay is not compatible with AMD cards, so it won't work on your current R9 card. I've never had any issues whatsoever with any geforce drivers till now. Shadowplay, Physx, Ansel work like dream for me.

If you have any other issues, hit me up and have a good one, man!

best15gamer · Nov 2, 2017

hellraiser06 you mean GTX 1060, so it is good, i can tell you the price in $: 61,500.00DA it's arround 400$ - 500$ in here is it overpriced ?, if there's no problem can you tell me the difference between the ones (GTX 1060) in the image, and does it support 3 monitors thanks.

hellraiser06 · Nov 2, 2017

See, prices of 1060 6GB in US is around 250 to 350 USD. However, they will be ore expensive in other regions and dollar to local currency unfortunately doesn't work. e.g. in my country (not US), GTX 1060 6 GB used to sell for around 300 USD before April 2017. Then, those damned cryptominers arrived at the scene and the local prices jacked up to 500 USD. Now a days, the prices are pretty much hovering at around 400 USD in my country which is more than the initial 300 USD. All in all, there is no direct comparison between local currency prices converted to USD due to local taxes, duties etc.

I am not sure how much 61,500 DA is or even what country's currency it is and Google is no help either, I Am sorry. Please tell me what country and currency you use. What you can do is google for the prices of 1060 6GB prior to March 2017. Take that as baseline and see how much they have increased or decreased till today.

And, any GTX 1060 can power upto 4 monitors at the same time. Although, do check from the graphics card selection, which ports they have at the back. THey will usually have a mix of HDMI and Displayport outputs. Plus, there may be a DVI or VGA output.

If you can tell me how many monitors you are planning to use, what ports they have at the back and if you can post the link to the site from which you posted the screenshot, I will try to pick a suitable graphics card for you.

best15gamer · Nov 2, 2017

My country is Algeria, as i told you the price is between 400$ to 500$, but that doesn't matter, what matter is if the GTX 1060 is overpriced, than all the graphic Cards will be overpriced too like 1050 / 1070 / 1080 cause that would be illogical, i mean if only the 1060 is overpriced from 300$ to 400$ or even 500$, and 1070 let's say it's with a price of 500$ or less, than i guess everyone will go with the 1070 (that's my guessing maybe there's something that i am not seeing).

For now i am using 2 monitors, one VGA and i am using a converter from HDMI to VGA for it when i had the R9 290X, and i have a TV that has all sort of ports, but i think that wouldn't be a problem, cause i will use only one Monitor for playing my games, the other one (VGA) is used for other stuffs like for streaming, (but maybe in the future and that's hardly doubted).

Just a question that is not clear for me that i've been asking, if there's no different between all the GTX 1060 6GB, why there's a difference in price or why there's so much version of it (as dontlistentome mentioned there's difference), so if i didn't ask here in the forum, i would go with the 3 fans (the one on top middle 65,900DA) cause there's no much difference in price, and it looks more powerful than the one that has only 2 fans, please explain this to me, and what should i consider to pick, cause if there's no benefit to pick a higher one (GPU) and lose some more bucks, in that case i will pick the cheaper ?.

hellraiser06 · Nov 2, 2017

The graphics cards with the same model number are sold at different prices mostly because of two reasons:
1) Better Cooling
2) Better factory overclock

Better cooling usually comes with a better factory overclocked card. The cheapest and most expensive 1060 6GB will have a performance difference of maybe 2 to 3% depending on the game. Heat output is a different story though. The cheapest can be 5 degrees hotter than the most expensive one out of the box at load.

So, if you can post the link of the site, I can tell you the difference between all models.

best15gamer · Nov 2, 2017

those are the websites:
http://www.lahlou-industry.com/composants-pc/carte-graphique
https://fractal-shop.com/categorie-produit/composants-pc/cartes-graphique/
http://www.fractaldz.com/?c=12085

hellraiser06 · Nov 2, 2017

Okay, I saw all the 1060s in all the 3 sites. I would say there is not much difference between them. They are just priced according to how they are priced elsewhere. Get any one of them. They are all equal and their performance would only differ by maximum of 2% from the worst to the best. Get the one with at least 2 fans. 3 fans won't make any difference, 2 are enough for this card.

best15gamer · Nov 2, 2017

sorry for this too many questions, but if i didn't suggest those Graphic cards, which one would you recommended for me, and what about AMD, even i decided to never buy them again, and can i find a better GPU than 1060 with the same price, cause you said it's overpriced because of the too many requests for Mining.

hellraiser06 · Nov 3, 2017

No problem mate. Happy to help.

I suggested GTX 1060 because its the best match for your current CPU. AMD equivalent would be RX 580 8GB. AMD cards are in worse situation due to mining. In my country, there is not even one shop that sells AMD RX570 and above at their list price. They are at least three times their regular price. If you go above any of these cards, your performance will be throttled by your CPU

best15gamer · Nov 3, 2017

as i told you i will upgrade my machine soon, but i think i am going with ASUS GeForce ROG STRIX GTX 1060 O6G because i am worried about the heating, i have a really hot place (room); i saw some videos on YouTube and the card didn't break the 100Fps in the new 2017 video games, but it's okay, as they say: "more money equals more FPS", for the Ram i have Kingston 8GB DDR3 1666Mhz (2x4GB) (i think that it's not really 1666 cause i get scammed i guess but anyway) do you advice me to add more 8GB to my machine or it's unnecessary, and i should invest that money on buying the new PC thanks.
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edit: i've changed my mind i will go with the cheapest one of 6GB with 2 fans cause i saw too many videos on YouTube and it seems that it's not worth it for the led lights and the overclock so it's a premium card but who cares for just 1-5 fps

i hope you answer my question about the ram thing, plus a last question then we close, do you think that there's a card closer to this card with a good performance to spend that extra 40 bucks haha, or cheaper one with the same price that gives a good performance or it's only the GTX 1060 that's on this range of budget thanks.

thodorisgreece · Nov 3, 2017

1060 6gb will be the best cheap choise.
Dont buy anything more expensive, it will be overkill.
2500k will probably bottleneck anything more than the 1060.

hellraiser06 · Nov 3, 2017

Getting more RAM totally depends on you. I would say order your graphics card. Put it to production. Monitor RAM usage. If you feel the need to upgrade do upgrade to 16 GB total. These days 16 GB seems to be the minimum for gaming. I see that while playing gta v or cod aw my system utilizes more than 10 GB RAM.

best15gamer · Nov 4, 2017

ok thanks does it matter what the mark is ?cause i have 'Kingston' and 1666Mhz (but not sure about that how can i check) so if i get 'Corsair' would it be a problem and what about if i get one of 8GB with 2400Mhz so can you guide me through this.

best15gamer · Nov 6, 2017

No answer ok thanks anyway

hellraiser06 · Nov 6, 2017

Sorry for the late reply.... weekend and all..

Anyhoo, yeah, get the same RAM as you have. If you buy RAM above your existing MHz, they will come down to existing. Meaning, 2400 MHz RAM will run at 1600. Or, sell your existing RAM and get 2x8GB kit. Remember, you have only DDR3 RAM and a weak CPU. You will need to upgrade to DDR4 platform very soon. So, put very little money towards current RAM. DDR3 above 1600 doesnt make much sense anyway. Just get the cheapest 8GB DDR3 kit and call it a day.

Further, from your Motherboard's manufacturer page (one more reason to not spend a fortune on RAM):
"Due to CPU behavior, DDR3 2200/2000/1800 MHz memory module will run at DDR3 2133/1866/1600 MHz frequency as default"

https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/P8Z68V_PRO/specifications/

best15gamer · Nov 6, 2017

no problem, so the mark isn't important if it was different; ok got it and yes maybe i will add only 4GB, and save the money for the new Machine thanks hellraiser06.
a quick question, you don't have to answer though: are you a specialist in hardware or you just know those by just knowing haha thanks.

hellraiser06 · Nov 8, 2017

Naah bro, I just keep my eye open in technology. As far as being expert is concerned, I am far from that. I even have one of my threads ongoing here for an issue I am facing with my setup. Anyway, enjoy gaming on your new graphics card. May the force be with you!

best15gamer · Nov 8, 2017

ahh i see, bro one last question, i don't know if you did notice but i have "Thermaltake Smart SE 730W Bronze" Power Supply, is it gonna put my GTX 1060 at danger ? and does it have 8 pin cause it has 6pin + 2 x 4 is it the same thing ?
cause i saw in a topic that someone said that it's a junk and it could put your component at risk is that true ?

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