Time for a new CPU or OC?

itsme777

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Hi there,

ive been upgrading some parts of my computer over the last few weeks. My current setup is this:

GA Z97 HD-3
GTX 1070 Strix
16GB RAM HyperX Savage HX316C9SRK2
I5 4670K
500GB SSD
Acer XF270HBMJDPRZ 27"

Now the one thing that I didnt upgrade for ~2,5 years is the CPU.

The question is, would it be better to 1) buy a completely new CPU(if yes, which one?) + put a decent cooler, so its "future proof", or 2) am I fine only buying a good after market cooler and put it on my current CPU?

My issue right now is that my CPU gets way too hot (90°C)+ once i overclock to just 38x, probably because Im using the stock cooler.

The following question would be, IF im gonna go the OC route, is my MB good enough for a 42x-44x oc? (Assuming it goes that far without crashing).


Lets say that the price doesnt matter for this.

Im mainly playing games like OW, AC: O, Witcher 3 etc, 1080p.

If I left out any important info please let me know, im gonna update the post asap.


Thanks in advance!




 
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That is not correct. The i7 is not overkill for gaming and there is no i5 stronger than i7 for that generation. The current gen. i5 is stronger but comes at a steep price... http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-4790K-vs-Intel-Core-i5-8600K/2384vs3941
Your i5 can still last a while if you can push it properly and if you are not looking for ultra settings on all games.
The motherboard is fine for now and if you are planning to upgrade both cpu/mobo, then its better to go current gen than upgrading to the same gen.
You may want to consider getting a i7 4790k. It will give you better performance in those games you listed comparted to your i5. I would look for a good deal on a used 4790k.

I would not upgrade to a new platform right now if I were you. It would be expensive as you would need a new CPU/RAM/Mobo and would not see a significant performance boost but the expense would be very high.
 
Here is how I am going to approach it. Get a good cooler first as you will need it anyway either trying to overclock this cpu or a new one. Try to push that i5 and see whether you can run it stable at higher clocks than currently operating and the performance improves and meets my needs and whether it gives me enough gain to stick with the i5. If it does, well and good, or else get a 4790k subsequently and overclock it moderately which will give a significant enough boost in performance.
Reiterating the above post, the performance gain from a new platform may not be significant enough for the price you pay.
 

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I've got to agree with this wholeheartedly. Maybe all you need is a better cooling setup. It seems like the concern is with the temperature rather than any shortfall you're seeing in performance, if I'm reading it right.

Plus, as mentioned, if you ultimately decide to go the i7 route, you've already got the improved cooling that you'd likely need for it anyway.
 

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updated the main post.

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What I've read the I7 is overkill for gaming. Is there a stronger I5 than the 4790k? Im wondering how long my 4670k can "last", if I need to upgrade anytime soon?

Then I'd buy the strongest I5 available now, if the performance boost is significant enough over my current one.

But I probably go for a cooler as recommended in any way.

Also about my motherboard, is it decent enough for now or should I upgrade it to match my other parts?


 
That is not correct. The i7 is not overkill for gaming and there is no i5 stronger than i7 for that generation. The current gen. i5 is stronger but comes at a steep price... http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-4790K-vs-Intel-Core-i5-8600K/2384vs3941
Your i5 can still last a while if you can push it properly and if you are not looking for ultra settings on all games.
The motherboard is fine for now and if you are planning to upgrade both cpu/mobo, then its better to go current gen than upgrading to the same gen.
 
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itsme777

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Can you recommend a good mobo and CPU if im looking for full ultra on all games, 1080p?

 

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I have very close to the same specs.
With a better CPU cooler my i5-4690K O/C to 4.5Ghz I reach about 60C at normal load and 70C max.
I plan to get an i7-4790K soon, but the only time I need it is when I do a 3D rendering.
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Thermalright Macho Bravo rev B, and the B stands for Big. That is a 140mm fan. Bigger heatsinks are better.

My GTX 1070 is not O/C and runs at about 60C. My memory is O/C from 1600Mhz to 1866Mhz.
I got a Z170 motherboard for free but didn't use i because the cost vs benefit ratio didn't make sense.
It would have cost $500 to get 5% faster.
 




You are looking at a couple of percent difference in fps in 90% of games by going with a 8400 vs the 4790k and a platform upgrade to the 8400 will cost you around $500. Go to ebay or craigslist and look for a used 4790k. You will get the same performance as you would from the 8400 (maybe better in some games) for half the price.
 


That is precisely what i was trying to say. But if he plans to get both, a new cpu and motherboard, from that gen. then a recent gen. would be a better bargain. Although it will cost a little more with RAM, it still has better support and upgrade path.
 
That is precisely what i was trying to say. But if he plans to get both, a new cpu and motherboard, from that gen. then a recent gen. would be a better bargain. Although it will cost a little more with RAM, it still has better support and upgrade path.

Agreed. If he wants to update everything, go for the 8th gen. But for me, there is just not enough performance boost to spend the money for that upgrade.

I love the 8th gen Intel CPUs and would like to get my hands on one to play around with, but for my needs, it just does not make sense. Especially right now, they are just too over priced. In 2018 when supply gets going and the H and B boards are released, the 8th gen CPUs will start to make more sense, especially the 8400.