[SOLVED] GIve me your opinion on my computer build

pandapcbuilder

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I'm building a computer mostly to play gta 5 at high settings at 60 fps. I don't have money laying around to spend however i want, so, im trying to keep this computer under $600. Here is the list for the computer components: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cG2YM8 Will there be any stuttering? Lag? Anything like that? 1080p would be nice
 
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My bad, I thought you had recommended the CX430, not the CX450. I'll go find some bad reviews on that and be back. :)

Ok, I'm back, I don't see any bad reviews on the CX450, but that may only be because there are NO reviews of the CX450. I'll reserve judgement until I see the inside for myself. I may just buy one of these and send it to Aris for review.

However, history tells us that CWT has done a lousy job in the past on CX units, so while I can't say anything definitive on the CX450, I can look to the past and say this:



The Corsair CX430 is made by CWT and uses the DSAIII platform. All the CX430-600w units use the same DSAIII platform and they are all made by CWT. Newer CXm models are not the same. The CSAIII platform, and all...
This would offer you a noticeable performance increase plus the use of the 1060 instead of the 1050TI means you'll likely still have very decent performance for another year or two, whereas with the 1050TI you are going to quickly lose relevance after the first year.

Total price is lower and you get a MUCH better graphics card and power supply. You also get a faster CPU and faster RAM. Overall you should be able to easily feel a gain over the system you outlined.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i3-7100 3.9GHz Dual-Core Processor ($106.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B250M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($71.39 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($76.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($43.78 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3GB Windforce OC Video Card ($209.44 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT - S340 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($61.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($37.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Other: White LED Strip ($24.00)
Total: $632.57
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-11-04 14:52 EDT-0400
 

pandapcbuilder

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That would depend on a variety of factors. Just because something is new, does not mean it is better. There are brand new power supply platforms that I would not take over some ten plus year old platforms that were very solid and are still perfectly serviceable even today as long as you are aware of the need to tweak a few settings. That takes maybe five seconds.

 
I would not. He is wrong. The Seasonic unit is 5x the power supply that the CX 430 unit is. That CX 430 is a pile of crap. If you want me to show you the money, so to speak, I'll be glad to. Suffice to say, it IS and there can be no argument that it IS. It's better than some units out there by far, but it is far from being as good as ANY Seasonic or Super Flower built unit, even their cheap ones.
 
My bad, I thought you had recommended the CX430, not the CX450. I'll go find some bad reviews on that and be back. :)

Ok, I'm back, I don't see any bad reviews on the CX450, but that may only be because there are NO reviews of the CX450. I'll reserve judgement until I see the inside for myself. I may just buy one of these and send it to Aris for review.

However, history tells us that CWT has done a lousy job in the past on CX units, so while I can't say anything definitive on the CX450, I can look to the past and say this:



The Corsair CX430 is made by CWT and uses the DSAIII platform. All the CX430-600w units use the same DSAIII platform and they are all made by CWT. Newer CXm models are not the same. The CSAIII platform, and all the DSA platforms really ( DSA = OCZ ModXStream Pro 400, Zalman ZM450-US), DSAII = Enermax EX, Sharkoon WPM, DSAII = Corsair CX430-600w units), DSAIV = Enermax Revolution X't) are all inferior power supplies.

And it isn't necessarily just the platforms, it's the build quality, poor assembly, good components sometimes with terrible soldering, tons of reasons why people in PSU circles cringe the majority of the time when CWT is mentioned.

Even the newest of those platforms, the DSAIV used in the Enermax Revolution X't, which you'd think might be improved since Enermax is trying to change their historical reputation of putting out some pretty terrible units and CWT has had several generations to improve the design and offer a more polished budget platform, still sucks. Case in point. There are LOTS more cases in point for ALL these platforms if you really feel the need for me to toss them in the pile.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/enermax-revolution-xt-ii-750w-power-supply,4549-10.html

And believe me when I say that's the best of the bunch. Not totally terrible, but for me, I'd never recommend a unit that died during testing whether it was an isolated incident or not. An that the fact that it's hold up time is out of spec, it's 5v rail performed poorly and it had sub-standard efficiency when not heavily loaded is enough to fully convince me there are much better units available for the same price, and actually, for a lot less.

As far as the CX430 goes, there are reviews on it. Jonny Guru's website said it wasn't horrible, it actually scored pretty well, but then, most Corsair units score well there since he works for them. Not that he's biased or anything, I've heard it go both ways and popular opinion is that since Oklahoma wolf does most of the reviews there these days, that Jonny's influence doesn't reach to the reviews (Which I highly doubt), however, seems he did this review himself, possibly before he began working for them.

In that review he says:

The Bad:

Not as efficient as we would like to see.

The Mediocre:

Use of Chinese Samxon capacitors throughout.
Group regulated design.

SamXon caps are enough for me to walk away. There are better units within reasonable reach of the price of the CX430 to not have to settle for group regulation and Samxon caps.

Further, he indicates:

Apparently the CX-430 product page is chock full of typographical errors because a good amount of the product description was copied and pasted from the CX-400 product page. One such error is the statement that this power supply is 80 Plus certified. Corsair tells me that this unit is NOT 80 Plus certified. Another error on the website is that the unit has a ball-bearing fan. Of course, in our autopsy we found that the CX-430 actually has a sleeve bearing fan.

More nails in the coffin as I see it. Group regulated, poor choice of capacitors, not 80plus certified and poor efficiency even for a non certified unit. Nah, no thanks.

Hopefully the CX450 doesn't share any of the inherent problems from the past models, but given the continuing mediocrity of the majority of CWT's budget platforms, I'd have to see it to believe it, and so like I said, I may just buy one and send it in for review or take a look myself although I don't have the proper equipment to fully test it properly like Aris, Gabriel or Wolf would do.
 
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It doesn't, well still not using Japanese caps but that cannot be expected in this price range. However it's a dc to dc unit and can supply full load on the 12V rail.
Also the old CX green label units (430W, 500W, 600W) only had a Continuous output rated temperature at 30 C while the new grey label (450W, 550W, 650W) is rated at 40 C.