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Hi All

I have an old system:
I7 920 bloomfield 2,67Ghz
Socket 1366LGA
Motherboard ASRock X58 deluxe
Memory DDR3 12GB PC3-12800
Graphic AMD R9 290x
Monitor a Samsung 1680x1050
I can't remember my Power Supply

But my qustion is:
Shall I upgrade my hole system or is it enough with my graphic card?
I am using my pc for gaming, not hardcore at all, just relaxing.

Hope you can tell me what to do.

Best regard
Søren
 
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coozie7
@ Kaspar_Jorgenson: Yep, as they say; If it ain't broke, don't fix it. ;)


In the meantime a few tips to help the old CPU out a bit:

Particle effects like smoke, water, explosion debris and vegetation detail can really hurt the frame rate with older parts, turn them down to ease the load.

High physics effects are the same, effects like real hair and highly detailed cloth also add significantly to the CPU workload.

Reduce the number of people/objects in view, each takes time to draw, adding to the CPU workload and lowering the frame rate.

Check the game settings and make sure ALL Nvidia specific game options are off-PhysX is particularly bad news with an older AMD card, regardless of the CPU it's paired with.
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That setup should be OK for 'just relaxing' gameplay, especially at such a ( by current standards ) low monitor resolution, the big R9 290X is about equal to the current GTX1060, itself a good card at 1080 rez: http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/gpu-hierarchy,review-33383.html so it's probably not a serious issue.
Try running your games with Afterburner recording the data and see which parts are getting heavily used, that way you can pinpoint any potential restrictions.
 
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Really, thank you for your quick answers. I am very surprised of your feedback...wow my old system can still hold up.
Coozie7 i will try afterburner, I have not heard about it before, but I will give it a try.
 
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@ Kaspar_Jorgenson: Yep, as they say; If it ain't broke, don't fix it. ;)


In the meantime a few tips to help the old CPU out a bit:

Particle effects like smoke, water, explosion debris and vegetation detail can really hurt the frame rate with older parts, turn them down to ease the load.

High physics effects are the same, effects like real hair and highly detailed cloth also add significantly to the CPU workload.

Reduce the number of people/objects in view, each takes time to draw, adding to the CPU workload and lowering the frame rate.

Check the game settings and make sure ALL Nvidia specific game options are off-PhysX is particularly bad news with an older AMD card, regardless of the CPU it's paired with.
 
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Hi kasper
Hmmm I don't run my games on max quality and still i am biginning to see some lacking. Example f1 2017 here i am see some issues.
I have only played the new wolfenstein 3 for few hours but i think it is playing better then wolfenstein 2...so I have my up and downs.
But I am also thinking about going a step up in monitor resolution 1440p...I dont know if my system or my graphic card will be the bottle neck in this situation
 
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Going up in resolution will only tax the GPU, not the CPU. For 1440p you are looking for a GTX 1070 or better.
As for CPU, you could see if you can find the I7-960 for cheap as that is running faster than what you have. Else you are looking at a new system with new CPU, new motherboard and new DDR4 RAM.
 
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Moving up to 1440 rez is really going to hurt the current graphics card, it's still a decent part at 1080 rez but will quickly choke at 1440.

Suggestion:
Hold off on any upgrades for now and check your cash situation, with Christmas so close you might not have as much in the kitty as you think.

Even for light relaxing gaming the current system isn't going to handle a 1440 monitor and current, high calibre games, it's time to look at a full, new setup, selling the entire existing system as a going concern for moderate gaming or even normal home uses.

For a decent 1440 rig I'd suggest you set aside about $1200-1400 for the main box, plus whatever for the later display upgrade.

Some ideas:

From AMD:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($193.67 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($174.87 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital - Blue 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($149.87 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB AMP Edition Video Card ($468.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo Pro M ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Rosewill - Capstone 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home Full - USB 32/64-bit ($102.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1330.25
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-11-06 15:27 EST-0500

And the same build with an Intel i5 8400:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor ($199.89 @ B&H)
Motherboard: MSI - Z370 GAMING PLUS ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($121.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($174.87 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital - Blue 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($149.87 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB AMP Edition Video Card ($468.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo Pro M ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Rosewill - Capstone 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home Full - USB 32/64-bit ($102.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1398.46
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-11-06 15:28 EST-0500
 
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