Can my i5 3570 run games at 1440p and does my RAM speed affect my pc performance (enough to upgrade)

sam_farhan94 · Nov 4, 2017

I'm buying a 1440p monitor and I was planning to play games at 1080p at first. If I change my plan and play games at 1440p, will there be any problems? I play Dota 2 most of the time and even at 1080p the percentage is at max 90+%. Will there be any CPU bottlenecks if I play dota 2 at 1440p? Also I hear RAM speed increases the CPU performance. I'm using a 700+ ddr3 ram. Maybe if I upgrade my RAM the percentage will go down?

Kasper Jorgensen · Nov 4, 2017

If your CPU can run the games at 1080p it will also run the games exactly as well in 1440P. What you need for 1440p is a GTX 1070 or above GPU.

alexandrugalu0 · Nov 4, 2017

Can you please specify your RAM Memory? And also which GPU you are ruinning? It all depends on the Graphics Card since that is going to push all the pixels whilst using your monitor.

Kalevra · Nov 4, 2017

I can play Heroes of the Storm at 4k@60 with may setup. I know Dota 2 is a different game but I think you'll be more than fine.

Kasper Jorgensen · Nov 4, 2017

Kalevra :

I doubt that your RX480 can push any AAA games to 60 FPS at 4K. With that said neither HoS or Dota are specially demanding games.

bjornl · Nov 4, 2017

Actually you don't need a 1070 to game at 1440p unless you are running above 60hz.
I gamed for a over a year on a gtx 970 above 1440p (1440p = 2560x1440, I gamed at 2560x1600) and I set everything to MAX. It did happen that in some game I might have to turn down AA to 4x and similar minor concessions to keep FPS above 60, but it was certainly game-able.
With 1440p you are looking at 10% lower resolution than the 2560x1600p, so a GTX 970, 1060 6gb, 980, 980ti, 1070, 1070ti would all be plenty of GPU horse power.
I gamed first on a 2500k which worked fine for a long time. Once games got more complex, I overclocked it to 4.5ghz and it was amazing. Later I moved the 2500k to be just a render box and added a 3770k (which I never got around to overclocking, as I never needed to). The 3770k is less than 5% faster than the 3570 and I was pushing 10% more pixels with only trivial compromises.

So does your GPU match a GTX 970? If it does, you should be ok.
With regards to your ram. You might enjoy the upgrade a little but the differences will be quite subtle. What I suggest is that you don't upgrade your ram unless you have less then 8gb. Clean your system (not CCleaner), just go in to %temp% and %windir%\temp and clear them out. Run malwarebytes anti-malware, keep everything closed in the background. Use Microsoft's SysInternals Autoruns to check your startup files.

If you intend to multi-task a lot while gaming both your CPU and ram are possible bottlenecks, I suggest you just not do this as it will cost a lot to be able to and is it really worth a major system upgrade to keep chrome running in the background while you game?

bjornl · Nov 4, 2017

Kalevra :

I don't think this is true. I've seen an rx480 choke at AAA games trying to hit 1440p. Every performance review of the that GPU says it is not recommended for 4k.

Kalevra · Nov 4, 2017

Kasper Jorgensen :

Sorry to break your heart, but according to MSI Afterburner my frames range between 50-80 at 4k.

Kasper Jorgensen · Nov 4, 2017

Kalevra :

Kasper Jorgensen :

Sorry to break your heart, but according to MSI Afterburner my frames range between 50-80 at 4k.

Sorry to break YOUR heart, but HoS is not a AAA game.

Kalevra · Nov 4, 2017

Kasper Jorgensen :

Kalevra :

Sorry to break YOUR heart, but HoS is not a AAA game.

Then why did you respond to my post?

Kasper Jorgensen · Nov 4, 2017

Kalevra :

Because you make it sounds like a RX480 can push all games to 60 FPS at 4K and maybe OP like other games as well. Even a GTX 1080 TI struggles to push all games past 60 FPS at 4K so no way a RX48o is anywhere viable for 4K gaming. I mean just look at the benchmarks here at Toms, they doesn't test it at 4K because it even struggles at 1440P
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-radeon-rx-480-graphics-card-roundup,4962-3.html

While i'm not sure what HoS demands I'm kinda with bjornl here, no way you get 60+ FPS in HoS.

Kalevra · Nov 4, 2017

Kasper Jorgensen :

Kalevra :

Because you make it sounds like a RX480 can push all games to 60 FPS at 4K and maybe OP like other games as well. Even a GTX 1080 TI struggles to push all games past 60 FPS at 4K so no way a RX48o is anywhere viable for 4K gaming. I mean just look at the benchmarks here at Toms, they doesn't test it at 4K because it even struggles at 1440P
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-radeon-rx-480-graphics-card-roundup,4962-3.html

While i'm not sure what HoS demands I'm kinda with bjornl here, no way you get 60+ FPS in HoS.

I didn't make it sound like that at all. I responded with knowledge of a specific game with a high likeness to the OP's question.

sam_farhan94 · Nov 4, 2017

alexandrugalu0 :

My RAM is 8gb and the speed is only 768mhz. I'm afraid that if I buy the 1070, my i5 3570 will bottleneck it while playing dota

Kasper Jorgensen · Nov 4, 2017

Either way, OP is not at 4K, he is at 1440p and the general conscious is that for 1440p, the GTX 1070 is the way to go. Sure a GTX 1060 could do for now, but what about next years games.

sam_farhan94 · Nov 4, 2017

But will my CPU bottleneck my GPU? I'm planning to buy either a 1060 or a 1070. I'm currently using a gtx 1050 and on GTA V the cpu usage reaches 100% and dota at 90+%. I know these 2 games are particularly cpu intensive games but I'm just afraid that if I start to game at 1440p the cpu will just bottleneck everything

Kasper Jorgensen · Nov 4, 2017

sam_farhan94 :

As I already said, raising the resolution will NOT tax the CPU more, only the GPU. So if your CPU is bottlenecking GTA V on 1080p, it also will on 1440p. Just that at 1440p then the bottleneck will be your GTX 1050 instead until you get a better GPU. For games like GTA V i highly recommend nothing below a GTX 1070 for 1440p.
You could also see if you can find a cheap I7 3rd. gen CPU for a bit more performance.

bjornl · Nov 4, 2017

sam_farhan94 :

Do the troubleshooting steps I outlined above. If your CPU is pegging now it will peg just as hard with a faster video card. But since I have gamed with basically the same setup (and my son still uses it today) I know your setup should work. You need to keep it clean. Kill background tasks. Be malware free.

Kalevra · Nov 4, 2017

sam_farhan94 :

The point I was making with my post was that I can do at 4k what you want at 1440p. Your PC is better.

Kasper Jorgensen · Nov 4, 2017

Kalevra :

Not with a AAA game like GTA V, he will need to lower the settings quite a bit for the GTX 1050 to perform decent.

4745454b · Nov 5, 2017

Not with a AAA game like GTA V, he will need to lower the settings quite a bit for the GTX 1050 to perform decent.

Or not.

http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/amd-radeon-r9-rx-480-8gb-review,18.html

59FPS at 1440. Not bad. The chart says max detail, so either live with the 59FPS avg, or dial a few things back to hit a solid 60FPS. What about Dota 2?

http://www.userbenchmark.com/PCGame/FPS-Estimates-DOTA-2/3684/146623.0.0.1440p.0

First site I found with a way to look at Dota 2 with a RX480. ~120FPS. Looks like he'll be fine there. Before "someone" jumps on me for not knowing what I'm talking about or that I'm implying any game will run, step off. While not the greatest card ever, the 480 should run most games at 1440 with ok to good settings with 60+ frame rates. There will be some where it chokes, and there might even be a couple where it falls flat on it's face. But if it's what the OP has, after looking at the games mentioned, it's fine at 1440.

OP, you said you worried about your CPU. Increasing res does put a mild load on the CPU, but we are talking very small. At least once you get to 1080 and above. At this point the load increases SO MUCH on the GPU that you notice that WAY before you see the hit on the CPU. I agree with the above posters, the 480 will give out before the CPU does. If you want to buy a new 1440 monitor, do so. (It's 1080 or 4k for me, no interpolation for me.) You'll need a GPU upgrade before a CPU upgrade so keep that in mind.

Edit: Just saw you guys were picking on a different person. Where is the OPs card? A 3570 shoudn't bottleneck a good card like the 1060, 1070, 480, 580, Vega, etc. There could be a game here or there where it really needs 8 threads, but at this point in time I wouldn't worry about it.

Kasper Jorgensen · Nov 5, 2017

4745454b :

Not with a AAA game like GTA V, he will need to lower the settings quite a bit for the GTX 1050 to perform decent.

Or not.

http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/amd-radeon-r9-rx-480-8gb-review,18.html

59FPS at 1440. Not bad. The chart says max detail, so either live with the 59FPS avg, or dial a few things back to hit a solid 60FPS. What about Dota 2?

http://www.userbenchmark.com/PCGame/FPS-Estimates-DOTA-2/3684/146623.0.0.1440p.0

First site I found with a way to look at Dota 2 with a RX480. ~120FPS. Looks like he'll be fine there. Before "someone" jumps on me for not knowing what I'm talking about or that I'm implying any game will run, step off. While not the greatest card ever, the 480 should run most games at 1440 with ok to good settings with 60+ frame rates. There will be some where it chokes, and there might even be a couple where it falls flat on it's face. But if it's what the OP has, after looking at the games mentioned, it's fine at 1440.

OP, you said you worried about your CPU. Increasing res does put a mild load on the CPU, but we are talking very small. At least once you get to 1080 and above. At this point the load increases SO MUCH on the GPU that you notice that WAY before you see the hit on the CPU. I agree with the above posters, the 480 will give out before the CPU does. If you want to buy a new 1440 monitor, do so. (It's 1080 or 4k for me, no interpolation for me.) You'll need a GPU upgrade before a CPU upgrade so keep that in mind.

You do know that the RX 480 is quite a bit faster than the GTX 1050 which OP have right?
So please find bench with the GTX 1050 and not the RX 480.
I already suggested OP to get a GTX 1070 if he wanna do 1440p with high settings.

sam_farhan94 · Nov 6, 2017

I play GTA V at 1080p with high settings and the gpu usage reaches 90+% but also the CPU. I'm just worried that if I get a better gpu it'll look something like 60% gpu and 100% cpu

4745454b · Nov 6, 2017

Nope. CPU load shouldn't increase any at all.

bjornl · Nov 6, 2017

sam_farhan94 :

It should not increase the load on the CPU. You will be removing a bottleneck, not shifting it. If the CPU was occasionally bottle necking, it will continue to do so but no worse than in the past.

You can try to make sure your CPU is the least loaded down possible.
1. close background tasks.
2. run malwarebytes anti-malware. You'd be surprised how often this finds stuff on PCs people promise me are clean.
3. clean out temp files and if it is a HD run chkdsk /f/r in a CMD window and then defrag the HD.
4. check you startup files using autoruns from sysinternals (free from Microsoft).

sam_farhan94 · Nov 6, 2017

Thank you all! I appreciate the help and insight. I think I'll proceed to buy the 1070 and the 1440p monitor. I won't be upgrading my processor unless I really see a major bottleneck. Maybe I'll upgrade my RAM to 1333mhz from 768mhz while I'm at it

Can my i5 3570 run games at 1440p and does my RAM speed affect my pc performance (enough to upgrade)

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